Masters of Fake News Conservatives Push 2015 bribery case as evidence of Uranium One corruption

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Jan 14, 2018.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    So they paid Clinton millions for 0.0038% of world's Uranium supply which would be under complete control of the NRSC? Is Putin stupid? You do know NRSC has complete control over exports right? Putin has zero control on how the mined Uranium is moved so how does that give him control?

    So now Obama is in on it?

    And evidence for all this is? Surely, a conspiracy of such scale would have people talking right? Whatever happened to that witness? Still no leaks by Republicans?

    And no, this deal makes NO sense. There is no shortage of Uranium, US doesn't use Uranium for their weapons, Putin has so much Uranium that they have to export it to the US.

    I know what's going on, Cons making shit up again to deflect from actual criminal investigation of Trump. All I ask for is EVIDENCE, if U1 is the real deal then why are you guys lying about the Tenam corruption case as related to U1? An American bribed and cheated Tenam and that means Russians bribed Americans? What?

    NOBODY will explain what's the connection to Russians supposedly bribing Clintons.
     
    #11     Jan 16, 2018
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  2. jem

    jem

    I don't care if all they got was one once of uranium. You are trying to excuse bribery by saying Putin over paid. That is ridiculous argumentation.



    2. I gave you proof from the new york times and the nrc which stated they believe that 75% of the uranium came back from Canada but that t 25% of the uranium went over to Europe.
    I gave you another source in our Govt which stated Putin had control over that 25%.

    why are you pretending you don't know that?

     
    #12     Jan 16, 2018
  3. Wallet

    Wallet

     
    #13     Jan 16, 2018
  4. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    For me to excuse bribery, you have to prove that Putin actually bribed Clintons.

    Unless Putin is now a Canadian who had no stake in U1 at the time of so called bribery, where exactly is your argument?

    2. So Putin bribed Clintons for one shipment of U1 which would constitute for 0.000001% of world Uranium production? And you gave no source that Putin had control over that 25%, that's just a lie.

    I ask calmly, give me a simple answer.

    Why the hell would Putin buy paltry Uranium deposits if he wanted to control Uranium supply which is abundant anyway?
     
    #14     Jan 17, 2018
  5. jem

    jem

    at I told you, when it comes to criminal ploys, your question is irrelevant.
    this one is better...

    if putin was only getting a worthless amount of uranium why did his people funnel over a hundred million dollars to the clinton foundation?

    the new york times can help you out... how many times am I going to have to show this to you before you stop your troll obfuscation.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...of-uranium-company.html?mtrref=www.google.com


    The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

    But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

    much more at link...


     
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    #15     Jan 17, 2018
  6. jem

    jem

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...of-uranium-company.html?mtrref=www.google.com


    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

    And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.
     
    #16     Jan 17, 2018
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Are you saying Guestra is one of Putin's people?

    Because that's not what the NYTimes article which is written by Breitbart's editor after NYTimes paid him to write that story is saying at all.

    They are simply saying 'cash flowed' leaving out the fact that Guestra was not part of U1, NYT has a penchant for pushing anti Clinton hitpieces devoid of facts.
     
    #17     Jan 17, 2018
  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    So what? Uranium One is a CANADIAN company, if Russians wanted to buy it then they could have done it without US approval, the whole point is that U1's US mines are worthless producing just 0.003% of world Uranium when Uranium itself isn't on short supply.

    To say that people would bribe over such a shitty amount of an element that's easily available is asinine and makes zero sense.

    In fact, the American who got indicted, was indicted for trying to IMPORT Uranium into the country that Russians wanted to get rid of, you are saying Russians would pay above market price for U1 that they want to dispose of? An element that US doesn't even need for it's national security?
     
    #18     Jan 17, 2018
  9. jem

    jem

    did you read the article
    do you admit it could be a problem

    your constant focus on irrelevant points is so disingenuous.
    it fools nobody.

    the article explained Russia not only has to import urnanium, putin was trying to control the market..

    as I have told you many times... this was going on pre fukishima.
    production levels are far different now.


     
    #19     Jan 17, 2018
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    It COULD have been a problem if we didn't knew that Guestra was NOT part of U1 at the time those millions flowed. It's a lie by omission.

    How is that an irrelevant point?

    You lose me when you keep bringin gup Putin trying to control the market. If he wanted to control the market, he won't spend millions on getting 0.0003% of Uranium which is directly overseen by the NRSC, there are plenty of mines around the world which he can buy. NO matter how much production levels have fallen, a 0.0003% is not even a blip and no sane person and definitely not Putin who is a very smart man would waste resources on ONE US company which generates 5% of US production.
     
    #20     Jan 17, 2018