Massive Market Upspike? (Opposite of a Crash)

Discussion in 'Trading' started by kmiklas, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. MultiMax

    MultiMax

    That fact that an up spike is so rare, says a lot about human psychology
     
    #21     Nov 30, 2016
  2. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    They're already factoring in a 0.9+ probability of a rate increase, so I don't think that it will hit that hard.
     
    #22     Nov 30, 2016
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    BIIB went up 6.7% from Nov 4th to 7th the next trading day and up 15% two trading days later.

    A market crash is a black swan. What is this called?
     
    #23     Nov 30, 2016
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  4. southall

    southall

    Big imbalance of long only mutual funds,and most other long term investors only ever go long as well, means fear in the stock market exists mostly on the downside.
     
    #24     Nov 30, 2016
  5. Traditionally, yes. Nowadays, it's just as likely that some massive quant fund that is long/short a whole bunch of different instruments can get clocked in one asset class and be squeezed in another.
     
    #25     Nov 30, 2016
  6. "the new normal".
     
    #26     Nov 30, 2016
  7. southall

    southall

    Position limits should mitigate that. But i suppose you could have 10 different funds all short 100,000 ES. Trying to cover in one day.

    But i think panic selling is always the more likely trigger as the crowd prefer to be long.

    Even some trend following funds that go long and short FX and commodities all the the time, but only ever take long signals in the stock market futures.
     
    #27     Nov 30, 2016
  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    I always wonder who were the people who sold in a crash knowing that crashes always recovered if given enough time?o_O
     
    #28     Nov 30, 2016
  9. White Swan event.
     
    #29     Nov 30, 2016
  10. southall

    southall

    Humans don't always have enough time, and the older you are the less time you have.
    Nasdaq took 15 years to get back to 5000, thats a long time to wait no matter how old you are.
    Nikkei 225 currently more than 50% below 1989 all time high. Almost 30 years.
    Euro Stoxx 50 index still 40% below all time high made in 2000.
     
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    #30     Nov 30, 2016