Masks Failed to Protect in 6000 Person Real World Study.... New

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    If you know of such a room, can you send me a PM with the location? I'd like to enter, get the virus and get this stupidity over with.
     
    #41     Dec 14, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Bookmarked.

    Anyone who wants to deliberately get COVID is very foolish.
     
    #42     Dec 14, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    And what is bookmarked going to prove? Its not a prediction.

    As for foolish, I'd expect no other opinion from the guy who said not wearing a mask was the same as putting a gun to the head and pulling the trigger.
     
    #43     Dec 14, 2020
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Why don't you go ask some first line healthcare workers what they think of people who refuse to wear a mask.
     
    #44     Dec 14, 2020
  5. jem

    jem

    I have...

    And many of them say you are a moron...
    The ones in high level care... have to wear n 95s.

    I know doctors who have to wear specific brands of non china made masks...
    and change them after every patient because the data shows dirty clothes masks are dangerous... and even then they are not sure clothes masks are protecting anybody...



     
    #45     Dec 14, 2020
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    My doctor told me, mask-less, what she thought of the risk to healthy adults who have excellent Vit D levels. Her answer would (apparently) surprise you.
     
    #46     Dec 14, 2020
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So you go to a doctor which does not follow proper public health guidance... figures.
     
    #47     Dec 14, 2020
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I go to the same doctor I always have for my executive physical. And I was pleased to hear her opinion that verified my own.
     
    #48     Dec 14, 2020
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    There ARE enormous differences in masks but epidemiology is about populations not individuals. That masks have not been given their full due as an urgent engineering not a medical matter is failure of government policy in most countries.

    From the perspective of epidemiology, a surgical mask (there are several grades, medical to actual surgical) will be effective in slowing the spread and allowing for variolation.

    In simple terms, variolation means that typically a smaller initial dose or several small doses of a pathogen allow someone to be infected without developing as severe side effects. It's what they relied on before vaccines were developed. It wasn't great, just a lot better than nothing.

    So lower quality masks "work" they reduce the severity of illness across the general population, individual results will vary. You won't see the reduction in total infections you might hope for but you will see a lot less significantly symptomatic.

    This is what the low Q but high Qanon cons can't grasp on those things that pass for their minds.

    Still, it would be infinitely better if Biden starts a rapid average mask quality improvement program while laying out minimal standards. Get the fecking Myth busters on it, any level of increased edge will save lives.
     
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    #49     Dec 14, 2020
  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I have mentioned variolation a dozen times, it never gets picked up for praise or argument.

    This blindspot is kind of weird. The cons being pure ignorance and unable to know anything not fed to them by the propoganda can't even attack the idea as its not discussed by their programmers at all.

    Eight months ago.

     
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    #50     Dec 14, 2020