Maryland Learns Tax Incentives For Hollywood A Loser For Taxpayers

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Do we have rightists agreeing that higher spending creates jobs?
     
    #21     Nov 17, 2014
  2. jem

    jem

    we analyzed that the value to the gdp of another dollar spent by the federal govt above the effect it has because it is a component of gdp is exceedingly small.
    govt is far too big right now.

    we saw all sort of stats that govt spent 300,000 dollars to create one 50,000 dollar job a few years ago.




     
    #22     Nov 17, 2014
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    We could also point out that the change to GDP of another dollar tax cut is also exceedingly small, and under certain circumstances, negative.

    We saw all sorts of stats from Kansas, last month, showing this.
     
    #23     Nov 17, 2014
  4. jem

    jem

    tell that to the bush, reagan, kennedy and mellon tax cuts
    tell that to the tax cuts over in ireland and bono...





     
    #24     Nov 17, 2014
  5. jem

    jem

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...ax-rates-keeping-irish-economy-prosperous.htm

    Europe:
    Irish rock star Bono is taking a truckload of abuse from Ireland's unions for stating the obvious: that low tax rates have brought Ireland "the only prosperity it has ever known." Guess who's the scholar in this exchange?

    Ireland has found itself the center of controversy in Europe these days, because of the tangled tax regimes of its states that have given Ireland the opportunity to outcompete other states through low corporate taxes and give companies like Apple, Facebook, Google and others a 12.5% tax rate, well below the European average and lower than even the United Kingdom's 21% rate. (The U.S. rate is around 33%.)

    Bono stepped up to the plate for the country he still lives in and pointed out the hardscrabble reality of Ireland: that "tax competitiveness has brought our country the only prosperity it's ever known."

    The comment provoked an attack from Unite, an Irish Big Labor union. "The one in four who suffer deprivation as well as the tens of thousands of others who have to put up with austerity will regard Bono's remarks with total derision," declared Mike Taft, Unite's economist, in an interview with the U.K. Guardian.

    Apparently, Taft's logic is that Ireland should be raising more in taxes so that more welfare can be dished out to those without jobs and "austerity" will never cut into the Eurocrats' six-hour lunches.

    It's garbage. Bono is the one who knows what's going on, and they should too.

    Fact is, Ireland's history is one of relentless, grinding poverty that has lasted millennia. It wasn't just the result of British rule; its own high spending, oppressive laws, overbearing unions, cronyism and contentious governability problems, have kept the country poor even after its 1922 independence and raised questions about whether independence was worth it, as David J. Lynch wrote in "When the Luck Of The Irish Ran Out."

    Ireland was only lifted in the 1980s and 1990s by the free-market revolution that swept the world, with low taxes as a key element in turning stagnant economies into economic dynamos from Chile to Singapore to Israel — and to what came to be known as the Celtic Tiger.

    Bono not only knows what helped make his country great, he hasn't forgotten it.

    Lower taxes are one of the few ways a tiny country like Ireland, subject to economic buffeting from Europe's larger players, can defend itself. Lower taxes make sense. What doesn't make sense is that anyone would criticize them.



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    #25     Nov 17, 2014
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    We've talked about that. Those presidents also spent big.
     
    #26     Nov 17, 2014
  7. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Skipping over this part?

    You can't conclude that it's all about taxes and ignore all other variables.

    But if you want to focus on taxes, who got the cuts? And how did government continue to provide what was expected even though revenues were less?

    This isn't hard.
     
    #27     Nov 17, 2014
  8. jem

    jem

    you are correct... its not hard at all.... unless you a pro tax leftist.

    after each of the reagan bush kennedy and mellon tax cuts, tax revenues went up.
    in fact after the bush tax cuts... the tax revenues from the top 1% went up also.

    since revenues went up... we can keeping cutting income taxes until that stops happening.




     
    #28     Nov 17, 2014
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Reagan and Bush II were massive spenders, and tax revenues went up. Since revenues went up, we can keep increasing spending until that stops happening.
     
    #29     Nov 17, 2014
  10. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    You're not real big on controlling variables, are you?
     
    #30     Nov 17, 2014