Marketsurfer says short shake shack

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by marketsurfer, Apr 25, 2015.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I hope not either. This truly is the only edge in trading and is the best, most salient advice one could ever receive.
     
    #381     Jun 1, 2015
  2. That trade was averaged into four times on the way up. Just wanted to clarify. surf
     
    #382     Jun 1, 2015
  3. Sheesh! You'd think a 6% winning day would elicit congratz rather than h8z... SHAK 77.89 -4.92
     
    #383     Jun 1, 2015
  4. romik

    romik

    Hold on with congrats, he needs to make back what he lost on first round.
     
    #384     Jun 1, 2015
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  5. You should add-- only edge for noise traders ---
     
    #385     Jun 1, 2015
  6. Thanks, Debit. Win or lose- the ne'erdowells and broke souls who haunt this board reveal themselves clearly with the h8.
     
    #386     Jun 1, 2015
  7. I followed this thread by coincidence and it was an eye opener for me.
    MS took losses between -17 and -36% on 4 positions. Horrible.
    The average loss on the total investment was -24%.
    So his ending capital is 76% from his initial capital. He went short (full position in my calculations) again at 86.70.

    1. The prices have to drop 31% to be break even ( without commission).
    2. The prices have to drop 44% to make 10% (without commission).
    3. The prices have to drop 57% to make 20% (without commission).

    Now I understand why he believes it is impossible to make decent returns. The way he trades it is indeed impossible. I trade futures with high leverage. My stop is on 12.5% only. So my risk per trade is 3 times smaller than his first trade (short 67.09).

    Price drivers or price divers?

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    #387     Jun 1, 2015
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  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    You do understand that this is a WIND UP Thread and the OP was never short right? By the way, a 12.5 percent stopout is the road to certain ruination.
     
    #388     Jun 1, 2015
  9. Wind up or not. He is following a "system". So simulation or real, it sucks.

    About my stop. I started trading in 1990, wiped out my 50k account in a few months. Started again, and still survive since then. I make even money!
    I take every month a big chunk of my profits and put it away. Even if I blow up my account three times in a row, nothing can happen. I put enough away to never go broke again.
    Before making statements about other people it would be wise to first know full details about his trading and capital preservation system.
     
    #389     Jun 1, 2015
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    12.5 percent stop is over 6 times too large.
     
    #390     Jun 1, 2015