marketsurfer and Alan Greenspan's Fraud

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by marketsurfer, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. mind

    mind

    the problem with the current mess is that many of those
    responsible acted bona fide. greenspan was very sure he
    did the right thing. and those people, the crowd, who
    look for guys to blame do not see their own embedment.
    i find it frightening when politicians and fed chairmen
    truly believe that if credit flows again everything will
    return to normal. the problem is the way the average
    american deals with credit in the first place. if they can
    bail the system out too quickly, nothing will change in
    this respect. a while back i saw the US savings rate
    over decades and its quite sudden decline in the nineties.

    and actually the whole thing is an american misperception
    of economics that grew over time. and it is shared by
    both parties. the mortgage twins, as far as i know, were
    deeply rooted in the democratic family. that pointed
    finger towards the failed bush policies seems to be a
    little stretch of reality.

    people, especially crowds, do not learn the easy way.
    if i had to clean the trouble, i'd make two regulations.
    first: financial institutions are only allowed to use
    exchange traded derivatives for hedging. all other
    trades do not offset risk, but increase it. in the futures
    market we know that only a fraction of the futures
    that are brought to the market, really make it. the
    others vanish due to too weak market structures. so,
    if structured credit desks want to hedge something
    they cannot just go out and create their private game,
    like cdx or itraxx.
    second is company size. this must be reduced. my guess
    would be about USDbn 10-20 in market cap. when
    companies grow bigger they are torn apart. yes, that
    would kill some economies of scale. yes. google is bigger.
    yes, microsoft, yes GE and so forth. my guess is the world
    would be way more competitive and way less
    corrupt, since all of a sudden the material power of
    certain groups ... vanish.

    funny thing with this latter point is that it sounds
    weird, but we actually have it in place already, just
    the size which is seen as critical is some orders above
    my proposal. the real point is that we are in a post
    industrial era and the point of economies of scale is
    way less valid than it was 100 years ago ...

    anyways ...
     
    #11     Oct 25, 2008
  2. Daal

    Daal

    His comments on the minimum wage are nonsensical. lets say he is correct, is he really endorsing that the government becames a hedge fund that 'adjusts' the 'correct' minimum wage to match productivity growth?
    the last thing you want is barney frank or nanci pelosi trying to create a more 'efficient' market with blunt instruments

    the Fed with a staff full of phds and highly educated people has a hard time doing that with interest rates. plus in election years it wouldn't be any surprising to see a sudden 'need' to 'ajdust' the markets further
     
    #12     Oct 25, 2008
  3. bbqbbq

    bbqbbq

    from what I read the way to counteract this effect is highten minimum wages and make a fixed exchange rate to countries with a trade deficit at the same time.
    also from what i read they actually lowered minimum wages in a 40 year time span from $8 hour to $5 an hour. So they have already been messing with the number.
     
    #13     Oct 25, 2008