Markets are impossible to predict

Discussion in 'Trading' started by farmerjohn1324, Jan 8, 2020.

  1. %%
    Good points;
    I like to read. Good thing we don't all trade the same way; like a profitable DOW derivatives trader said == ''its correlated to itself'' LOL ................................................................................:D:D:D:D:D,:caution::caution::caution::caution::caution::caution::cool:
     
    #161     Jan 11, 2020
  2. schizo

    schizo

    Here's a starter:

    Intermarket Analysis Cheat Sheet
    What is Intermarket Analysis

    If your interested in books, here are some good titles:

    John Murphy: Intermarket analysis
    John Murphy: Intermarket Technical Analysis
    Ashraf Laïdi: Currency Trading and Intermarket Analysis

    Louis B. Mendelsohn: Forex Trading Using Intermarket Analysis
    Markos Katsanos: Intermarket Trading Strategies


     
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    #162     Jan 11, 2020
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  3. Yes - but the market did trade strongly in my favour.

    You seem to fail to grasp that it's a matter of probabilities. At times - these can be so strong that it's close to a certainty.

    For example on Monday, although the market overshot my prediction by 3,50 points:

    ES Journal - 2019/2020

    I did. I don't trade blindly on my predictions. At least not yet. I continuosuly update my data and use secondary signals as well.
     
    #163     Jan 12, 2020
  4. As to the original post, Farmer entered the NUGT trade far to late, when the RSI for GLD was in the low 80's and peaked at 85. That's why there was so much profit taking in the miners, Mr. Market is anticipating a pullback in the metal. Should have been actually buying DUST, the inverse of NUGT. I actually like trading both and have done nicely in both over the past 18 months. Like all leveraged ETF's, there is a reason why they're not recommended for the average investor.
     
    #164     Jan 12, 2020
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  5. 1. NUGT isn't the 3x leveraged version of GLD. It's the leveraged version of NYSE ARCA Gold Miners Index.

    2. When I entered NUGT, the RSI of GLD was 71.

    3. Technical indicators don't move markets. Fundamentals do. What do you think would happen to NUGT if the unemployment rate rose several months in a row?

    4. You might as well just talk about buying the indices rather than shorting gold. Same general idea, just more simple.
     
    #165     Jan 12, 2020
  6. Lol, great thread farmerjohn. Perfect trainwreck. :)

    But were you series when you gave the stat of the unleverged index being up like 26% and its 3x fund equivalent being up 90% in same period?

    If so, anyone know how this could be? I always was under the impression that due to volatility decay there should be less thana 3x return. But 90 is a good bit ABOVE 3 times 26...
     
    #166     Jan 12, 2020
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  7. _eug_

    _eug_

    I swing trade leverage oil ETF's... no problem. Just dont hold on to your losers eh.
     
    #167     Jan 12, 2020
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  8. Do you have a certain percentage where you call something a loser?
     
    #168     Jan 12, 2020
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  9. %%
    That depends on the way it trends.For example UPRO can easy be down -10%[ lost 10% on SPY losing 1%] for52 weeks, on SPY being down -1% for 52 weeks. And that is a lot bigger % slippage than your example. Farmer john's ETF X3 did 100% on 52 weeks not long ago, as I noted earlier
     
    #169     Jan 12, 2020
  10. And if I had guessed right, I'd be on here looking like a genius even if it was luck.

    If I would have bought the 3x S&P (SPXL), I'd be up 35.5% since 9/4/19.
     
    #170     Jan 12, 2020
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