Markets are impossible to predict

Discussion in 'Trading' started by farmerjohn1324, Jan 8, 2020.

  1. Zodiac4u

    Zodiac4u

    Yes but this markets very seasonal, historically pretty dang predictable.:thumbsup:
     
    #131     Jan 10, 2020
  2. mt2rules

    mt2rules

    It's very easy to say all-in QQQ when we're in a raging bull market and everything is going up. It is much harder when it's down 50% and you're not sure if it's going to drop another 30 like in the early 2000s.

    While the average person may lose half their net worth in a recession, a trader could have the best year of their life. It's all relative and everything is based on assumptions, whether you are a trader or an investor.
     
    #132     Jan 10, 2020
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  3. dozu888

    dozu888

    rest assured you are the 124th person who have responded like this.

    you can check my past posts and find out how long I have been calling the Qs.... but it doesn;t matter really.... all the chicken littles out there empty handed will always be empty handed.

    this is not about just following a call, it's about what I have been trying to demonstrate as a methodology.... if people don't learn the method they'll never be able to write that check lol.
     
    #133     Jan 10, 2020
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  4. mt2rules

    mt2rules

    I'm not doubting that if you closely follow the Qs and pay attention to what big institutions are doing and what BS the media is spewing you can catch major trends and hopefully piggy back on them. I've looked through your past threads. But at that point you are a trader, not an investor. So it's not just as easy as telling everyone to B&H the QQQ.

    So on one hand you say only 1% of people can be traders and you shouldn't even try. Then on the other hand you say you need to follow an exact trader methodology to "write that check". So which is it?
     
    #134     Jan 10, 2020
  5. dozu888

    dozu888

    not necessarily to have a line in the sand between traders vs. investors right? just buying and selling to make money... if the conditions require higher frequency so be it.... if the conditions (currently) say aapl will go to $1000 and SP 5000, why bother getting in and out. right?
     
    #135     Jan 10, 2020
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  6. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Cause long term is hoping,guessing and waiting pretty much.

    Where as short term is, market is doing XXXX jump on, jump off and attempting to tage a daily wage like a job, out of the markets.
     
    #136     Jan 10, 2020
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    If this is a trade, you have poor trade management.

    In contrast, its a safe haven fund that so far has not been a good investment.

    Simply, too early to be complaining about it bouncing around in 3 days. Also, know your destination prior to departure to prevent getting lost.

    Also, be aware or you should have been aware that President Trump makes comments online in away to protect the market uptrend because he likes bragging about the performance of the markets since he's been President.

    You took action (bought into a fund) based upon what President Trump did (missile strike) but you then ignored the fact that Trump will also protect the market via his tweets or live speeches...something he did.

    Thus, if you're going to invest like that...why are you not keeping track of President Trumps tweets or live speeches to protect your investment that are based upon his breaking news actions ?

    wrbtrader
     
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    #137     Jan 10, 2020
  8. bone

    bone

    Why on this Planet Earth would you ever assume that a 3 X leveraged Gold Fund isn't the proverbial 'saw that cuts both ways' in terms of risk and volatility ?
     
    #138     Jan 10, 2020
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  9. dozu888

    dozu888

    well, hoping guess for most people perhaps... if you understand my methodology it's crystal clear to me where the market is going.
     
    #139     Jan 10, 2020
  10. Trailing 12 months...

    S&P500 = 3273.76/2596.64 = 26%
    3x S&P500 (SPXL) = 68.82/36.23 = 90%
     
    #140     Jan 10, 2020