Market System of Operation

Discussion in 'Journals' started by llIHeroic, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    Thanks for the effort workwithus, but bar-by-bar degap is not for me. Not to be confused with mental degap of a session opening gap, which was not applicable on 12/24.

    For those unfamiliar with degapping it might be helpful to explain how degapping affects EACH previous bar and maybe show a few hi and low differences vs the actual price chart. Knowing why bar-by-bar degapping is recommended might also be useful.
     
    #141     Dec 25, 2013
  2. Do we agree on this?

    Bar 1: XB, use volume
    Bar 2: XB, use volume
    Bar 3: XR, use volume
    Bar 4: XR, use volume
    Bar 5: XB, use volume
    Bar 6: Hitch, wait
    Bar 7: XB, use volume
    Bar 8: Hitch, use volume
    Bar 9: Lat3, wait
    Bar 10: XB, use volume
    Bar 11: XB, use volume
    Bar 12: XB, use volume
    Bar 13: FBP, wait
    Bar 14: Lat3, wait
    Bar 15: XR, use volume
    Bar 16: XR, use volume
    Bar 17: Sym, wait
    Bar 18: XB, use volume
    Bar 19: FTP, wait
    Bar 20: Lat3, wait
    Bar 21: Lat4, retro
    Bar 22: Lat5, retro
    Bar 23: Lat6, retro
    Bar 24: Lat7, retro
    Bar 25: OB, use volume
    ....rest later.

    Next volume test procedure.
     
    #142     Dec 25, 2013
  3. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    Does not match my 12/24 log. Maybe I have an out-sized price-case identification problem, but I don't feel that to be true. "retro" otoh, I have not seen discussed in this thread, perhaps I overlooked, and it is not listed in Hero's glossary last I checked.
     
    #143     Dec 25, 2013
  4. Before we can go any further to what Jack posted, the price cases have to be correct and the question which volume bar can be used or not for the volume test procedure.

    The first disagreement is on bar 6. Bar 6 to you is a XB. But what do you get if you remove the gap between the close of bar 5 to the open of bar 6? In other words: Shift bar 5 up or down until the close aligns with the open of bar 6. What is the resulting formation (price case) now?
     
    #144     Dec 25, 2013
  5. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    Why is it necessary to view an intraday price bar with a gap as something other than what it is? What is it about an intraday close to open gap, regardless of size that makes it undesirable? What is the purpose of adjusting the entire price bar, skewing at a minimum only that bars price range variables?
     
    #145     Dec 25, 2013
  6. Quote Jack Hershey:
    "Degapping bar to bar is a requirement of RDBMS.

    Fractals have their place. To see them correctly, degapping must be done before the observation is made."
    :D

    I will leave it to Jack to justify (explain) it (the reason "why"). :)
     
    #146     Dec 25, 2013
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  7. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

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    #147     Dec 25, 2013
  8. xioxxio

    xioxxio

    Hi Jack, it looks like you have done a complete 360 on Ah. Same conditions as above but a LVBO
     
    #148     Dec 26, 2013
  9. I see what you mean. On his original "A-band sheet" he says:

    "Band pass = LVBO"
    "First P1 replaces T1"
    "Happens when P2 assigned on bar 78 before T1 occurs"
     
    #149     Dec 26, 2013
  10. llIHeroic

    llIHeroic

    Post #4 of this thread touches on why we do this.

    Also, I tried to put it into the definition of De-Gap on the Glossary as well.

    "The mental process of removing any gap in price between one bar's close and the following bar's open. Used in order to correctly compute the relative change in price between the two bars."
     
    #150     Dec 26, 2013