Market Selloff as people realize horrible dumbass Democrats kill economy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by KCalhoun, Jan 13, 2022.

  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    In fact, you're correct...I did forget about that promise involving NATO. Thanks for the reminder.

    I was too busy chasing South Korean girls in South Korea...getting ready to return back to the states at the time of that promise that NATO would "not move one inch east of Germany"

    wrbtrader
     
    #41     Jan 15, 2022
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  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    As I pointed out, WW2 was only 80 years ago. As I also pointed out, we may have forgot because aside from Pearl Harbor and the enormous loss of lives endured by our troops on foreign soil, our homeland was never invaded.
    Russia was, in a terrible way.

    Imagine if Canada had been Nazi Germany in WW2 and the U.S. had been overrun.
    Russia lost over 27 million people, over half of which were non-combatants in Nazi occupied Russia.
    The U.S. lost under 500,000
    We expect the leader of the largest country on Earth to forget this only 80 years later like nothing happened?!
    It's his job to protect his people.

    Who's picking a fight here?
    From his speech last December:

    “In a dialogue with the United States and its allies, we will insist on working out specific agreements that would exclude any further NATO moves eastward and the deployment of weapons systems that threaten us in close vicinity to Russian territory,” Putin said.

    He charged that “the threats are mounting on our western border,” with NATO placing its military infrastructure closer to Russia and offered the West to engage in substantive talks on the issue, adding that Moscow would need not just verbal assurances, but “legal guarantees.”

    “We aren’t demanding any special conditions for ourselves and realize that any agreements must take interests of Russia and all Euro-Atlantic countries into account,” Putin said. “A calm and stable situation must be ensured for all and is needed for all without exclusion.”


     
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  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Since 1999 NATO has brought Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia into their fold... all east of Germany.
    Putin protested but it still happened and Putin accepted it.
    Now he's drawn a line.
    I am of the opinion we respect that line.
    Putin is NOT Obama, that line's for real.

    For human rights we have organizations like the U.N., Amnesty International, etc to monitor what goes on there, but to arm Ukraine with short and medium range missiles, tanks, artillery, $100's of millions earmarked for more weapons of death, and all the other "perks" of being a NATO state... right on Putin's back lawn is absolutely stupid.

    When Putin installs missile bases in Windsor, Canada, across the river from Detroit, then Biden has the right to put his nose in things.
    NATO is big enough already.
     
    #43     Jan 15, 2022
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  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Fair enough but if Putin (Russia) comes to Canada and goes to the U.S. / Canada border...our polar bears will be waiting and recently the CDC has warned American Covidiots against traveling to Canada. :D

    CDC-Advises-American-Covidiots-Not-Travel-Canada.png

    #sarcasm

    wrbtrader
     
    #44     Jan 15, 2022
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  5. easymon1

    easymon1

    "When all else fails
    They take you to war."
    Do you care?
     
    #45     Jan 15, 2022
  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    What's bad for the economy and the market is the Democrats not getting their initiatives through the Senate intact. Infrastructure was cut in half (or more) to get it through. Tax increases on the Wealthy was a no starter. And now the Senate will block BBB. Had all of these measures passed as originally proposed the economy would have taken off like a moon rocket. As it is, we will continue to have a strong economy because of the stimulus on the demand side -- which is the opposite of what Republican administrations champion. And this, despite the Pandemic! Quite an accomplishment for the Biden Administration I would say, considering what they've had to deal with.

    Watch Corporate earnings. It is rare to enter a recession without making a peak in earnings. I don't expect a few, paltry 25 basis point fed funds rate increases to do much of anything expect produce market volatility when they are announced.
     
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    #46     Jan 15, 2022
  7. ipatent

    ipatent

    The deficit would have taken off as well.
     
    #47     Jan 15, 2022
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  8. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    Fortunately we'll get a big red wave at midterms and socialist Democrats/Biden will remain lame duck til GOP wins back the White House.
     
    #48     Jan 15, 2022
  9. easymon1

    easymon1

    If you care...
    This post or one representing your view sent to your elected leaders would gain more traction than if it goes no further than here. https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
     
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    #49     Jan 15, 2022
  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    We should talk about this sometime. The "deficit" is a politically useful concept. The Republicans use it whenever they want to kill things they are ideologically opposed to, though it is sometimes difficult to tell ideology from self-interest. When they use the "deficit" ploy, it's often capital investments they are killing!!! They have no problem with appropriating more for War than the Pentagon asks for. They love spending on wasting assets, because when these temporary assets, often never used for their intended purpose, go to the scrap heap, the companies they own get to produce still more wasting assets. They don't think far enough ahead to realize the same companies could be producing capital assets instead. There kind of spending is wasteful and does little for the bulk of Americans, other than to keep them treading water. Investment, on the other hand, produces a positive return and will reduce net future Treasury liabilities and the non-discretionary spending that goes with these liabilities. And most importantly, real investment in the future lifts the little boats as well as the yachts. We need to spend less on wasting assets and invest more in capital assets that will sustain our future.
     
    #50     Jan 15, 2022