Market refuses to go down

Discussion in 'Trading' started by detective, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. Mvic

    Mvic

    This actually works with the scenario I see which is a melt up or blow off top to this move in equities. If the dollar does hit 1.50 we should also close the gap on the SP and hit 1200+ before the rally is done.

    As long as we have a weakening USD we can have rising equities without a substantial economic recovery.
     
    #151     Sep 16, 2009
  2. S2007S

    S2007S


    As much as I hear you screaming that a continued lower dollar will lead to higher equities I just cannot agree, I think a falling dollar is going to create a market unlike no other, to think a weakening dollar can continue to create economic recovery just baffles me.
     
    #152     Sep 16, 2009
  3. dont

    dont

    Its because a weakening dollar is inflationary, inflation up companies have pricing power stocks go up. But in foreign currency terms, its gone nowhere.

    Look at Zimbabwe in local currency terms its stock market was booming while the currency and inflation where out of control. Now does it make sense, no of course not.
     
    #153     Sep 16, 2009
  4. Mvic

    Mvic

    Take it from a guy who has learned the lesson several times the hard way, trade what you see not what you believe. The inverse correlation is so stark that a blind man could see it :)

    http://www.nowandfutures.com/key_stats.html#tic

    July TIC flows net 15B vs 60B expected, 90B prior and deficits are rising, is it any wonder the $ is weakening.
     
    #154     Sep 16, 2009
  5. pitz

    pitz

    2000-2009 = "the lost decade" -- maybe??

    How quickly people seem to forget that the market has gone absolutely nowhere for the past decade.
     
    #155     Sep 16, 2009
  6. S2007S

    S2007S



    2009-2019+


    will be the lost decade, you don't go back and claim the biggest boom of our time the lost decade.


    The tech boom, dot com boom, credit boom, job boom, housing boom, gdp boom, you call that a lost decade????
     
    #156     Sep 16, 2009
  7. pitz

    pitz



    "biggest boom of our time"? WTF are you talking about? You mean the decade where practically everyone doing stuff of value lost their jobs? The decade where debt absolutely ballooned (with no increase in exports to show for it). The decade of the collapse of the manufacturing industry?

    There was no 'job boom' (in fact, jobs and income declined precipitously). The 'tech boom' was over by 2000. GDP didn't really grow either. For the average person, the past decade has been one of economic misery, the effects of which, were only sligtly placated by rising debt.
     
    #157     Sep 16, 2009
  8. Exactly. Now it's reversed:
    tech crash, credit crunch, job disaster, housing mess, GDP down....and the list just goes on and on.
    The only thing certain now is for continued cost-cutting by businesses of all sizes...and continued high bankruptcy rates for both households and businesses.
     
    #158     Sep 16, 2009
  9. Mvic

    Mvic

    Looks like we are getting some short capitulation now.
     
    #159     Sep 16, 2009
  10. FB123

    FB123

    It never ceases to amaze me how many times the same stuff happens again, and again, and again, and again... :)
     
    #160     Sep 16, 2009