Market Reaction to Standard & Poor's US DOWNGRADE?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by shortie, Aug 5, 2011.

Market Reaction to Standard & Poor's US DOWNGRADE?

Poll closed Aug 8, 2011.
  1. Down 10%

    33 vote(s)
    21.0%
  2. Up 10%

    12 vote(s)
    7.6%
  3. Down 7%

    7 vote(s)
    4.5%
  4. Up 7%

    3 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Down 5%

    16 vote(s)
    10.2%
  6. Up 5%

    2 vote(s)
    1.3%
  7. Down 3%

    18 vote(s)
    11.5%
  8. Up 3%

    14 vote(s)
    8.9%
  9. +/- 2%

    52 vote(s)
    33.1%
  1. so you think Thur 5% drop was the reaction to the news/rumor?
     
    #21     Aug 6, 2011
  2. AA+ is a rare rating. I don't know in which out f 3 categories US got downgraded. The table includes all the countries with at least one AA+ in one of the 3 categories.

    US is like Belgium or New Zealand. The others have much lower overall rating.

    [​IMG]
     
    #22     Aug 6, 2011
  3. Luckily for the bulls, the holy grail indicator has just signaled BUY:

    Looking at past examples from his report, it seems when more than 80 percent of NYSE stocks fall below their 200-day average, the market is close to being oversold.

    "Extreme readings in this indicator (so far) have a perfect record with respect to market rallies both two weeks and three months later," wrote WJB Capital's Roque, a respected staple of the technical analysis community, in a note. "We still think this market has issues, notably with the industrial sector, but we're putting our trust in this indicator/data near term."

    The analyst cited seven other occurrences besides today since 1994 where the percentage of stocks below their respective 200-day moving averages reached such an extreme.

    Two weeks and three months later, the S&P 500 has been positive every time hitting the oversold trigger, with gains averaging 5.3 percent and 15 percent respectively.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/44038676
     
    #23     Aug 6, 2011
  4. S2007S

    S2007S



    Always find it funny that they can find indicators on what happens after sell offs such as these, it seems no matter what 100% of time there are gains to be followed by such sell offs. So I guess its rally time soon! Time to get long I guess. :p
     
    #24     Aug 6, 2011


  5. This is post facto curve fitting at its worst. Unless there is a way to predict what the extreme will actually be, following that advice with meaningful amounts of capital WILL wipe out the trader.

    Completely irresponsible reportage.
     
    #25     Aug 6, 2011
  6. the problem is that there have only been 7 occurrences and it is likely curve-fitted. if you loosen up the parameters i bet you will still get good #s with this indicator but not 100% win rate of course.

    the indicator as presented is an alternative measure of the extreme oversold level that we have reached. pretty much everything else is screaming buy! buy! (if one subscribes to the reversion-to-mean)

    are we guaranteed to go up? no. but the odds are that we could bounce from here barring some new bad news.
     
    #26     Aug 6, 2011
  7. AK100

    AK100

    Cicero said something like if you can't win the argument, attack the person.
     
    #27     Aug 6, 2011
  8. the downgrade is real. it did not just come out of the blue. the bad news is that S&P is a US company and probably delayed the downgrade is long as it could. in other words, if anything, the situation with US creditworthiness is probably WORSE than AA+.

    S&P did mess up the numbers and this has become the point of attack by the treasury. but the fact remains that S&P adjusted for the error and still said that US is in a sh*thole.

    the other agencies will be downgrading soon...
     
    #28     Aug 6, 2011
  9. Cha ching M*therf^cker!!!

    I don't cuss routinely. That felt good.
     
    #29     Aug 6, 2011
  10. Visaria

    Visaria

    Down heavy on Monday. There are plenty of pension funds etc who are only allowed to hold triple A bonds. They have to sell on Monday, causing prices of bonds to go down, interest rates to rise and that would spook the stock market.
     
    #30     Aug 6, 2011