vital-analitix and Nana Trader, I have a programmed working trading system based on MP and it uses no discretion whatsoever. 100% mechanical. The way it works is by using the basic logic of MP to identify primary market direction, then applies specific, traditional style set-ups to determine exact entry and exit points. Some people think MP is esoteric but when you break it down into its basic parts, it really is a simple and effective method - the best method I have found in the past seven years of trading. So without giving away any secrets, I'd be interested to hear about any method you have found that is better - even in vague terms. Runningbear