Market Profile Plus by bolter

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by bolter, Jan 31, 2006.

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  1. bolter

    bolter

    Another very tradable day. At the open we bounced off yesterdays HOD for the first 15 minutes before heading higher, in what I suspect was a brief short covering rally. By 10:00 we were really over extended - 15 pts in the last 3 hours of trading with the ADX>60, and we were right at my first S/R level. A pause was definitely in the offing. The TRIN start heading north which is a sure sign that the rally was no longer supported by widespread buying in the cash markets. We had one brief push to my second target level at 1277 (which I suspect was a probe for stops) before rolling over and dying. We closed right at the bottom of longer term VA @ 1265, but below the 1268.25 S/R level I mentioned.

    For me the appropriate point to shift bias (and this is with hindsight - I was asleep by then) was the break below S/R and then violating the earlier pivot low at 1272.50, just before 2:00. From that point on you were looking to get short.

    Catch you later.

    Here's my chart FWIW:
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    #111     Feb 9, 2006
  2. omniscient

    omniscient Guest

    you got it.

    blue = VA
    white = POC
    yellow = midpoint
    pink = Initial Balance (first two time periods)

    and dalton's book is great. you really could use it as a single point of reference and do this. of course, shaping and adapting the concepts to current markets is implicit. as with any resource.

    i am using QuoteTracker from www.quotetracker.com

    hth

    take care :)

    omni

    BTW: great thread bolter. keep up the excellent work :)
     
    #112     Feb 9, 2006
  3. TGM

    TGM

    I never knew Quotetracker did market profile! Must be a new feature. What is the title of daltons book? Every fixed income trader I know uses Market profile to trade fixed income. Cool to see you guys using it for the ES.
     
    #113     Feb 9, 2006
  4. xxxskier

    xxxskier Guest

    "Mind Over Markets", by James Dalton.
     
    #114     Feb 9, 2006
  5. omniscient

    omniscient Guest

    yeah, the Medveds are really making some fantastic progress on their TPO charts. good stuff and they've got more enhancements in the works.

    here's dalton's book:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/09...f=pd_bbs_1/103-6912069-8613434?_encoding=UTF8

    and Steidlmayer's book:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/04...2069-8613434?_encoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

    the CBOT manual is still a great resource (though a bit dry):
    http://www.cbot.com/cbot/docs/handbook.pdf

    a great MP resource hub:
    http://www.tradingclinic.com/mpref/mp2.php

    an especially attractive aspect of MP is that it is really market/instrument independent. futs, equities, curriences, you name it, you can look for normal distributions and perceived value - both critical components of MP.

    hth

    take care :)

    omni
     
    #115     Feb 9, 2006
  6. duard

    duard

    Excellent thread!!!
     
    #116     Feb 9, 2006
  7. bolter

    bolter

    Here's the bigger picture for the ES. Can anyone spot the typo?

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    #117     Feb 10, 2006
  8. bolter

    bolter

    Somebody asked me a very sensible question earlier (Hi Nina) that perhaps one of you guys might be able to help with. Does anybody has any references that describes the use of Volume Profiles? If so can you post it please.

    I don't remember seeing it mentioned specifically in Steidlmeyer or Dalton's work (but I could be wrong)? Perhaps it's covered in Jones' work on ODC's? As far as I far as I remember I think I just started compiling them in Excel, then about 5 years ago I saw them starting to appear in charting packages. I think Ensign was the first I saw that could do VPs.

    TIA
     
    #118     Feb 10, 2006
  9. mokwit

    mokwit

    Not seen anything but one area where price/volume* profiles come into their own is when Taylors 3 day (AKA LSS) buy, sell sell short cycle is in evidence. Sometimes you can look at the profile and see that 'they' weren't able to liquidate/reverse their position in one day due e.g. to lack of bid thickness and that it will have to carry over to another day and stretch the cycle out another day.

    * I found market delta's bid ask strike profile superior to volume profile as in thin markets like HSI an institutions block going through as a put through distorts the vol profile and the fact is it might be a hedge coming off from 6 months ago (granted someone is taking the other side and maybe feeding it back into the market)
     
    #119     Feb 10, 2006
  10. haub

    haub

    incredible journal...so glad i stumbled onto it...been looking at market profile for sometime....but you make it flow better than the books do....and put it into practical application. Thanks. Question...I also am using esignal, do you care to share the efs's that you are utilizing. I think I might have found the tick volume one on esignalcentral...have you found anything that helps with volume profile analysis in efs form? I see sr-analyst has something similar....
     
    #120     Feb 10, 2006
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