Market dropped 98 points below my stoploss before it filled. Pls Advise.

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by jyoke, Feb 8, 2025.

  1. p0box4

    p0box4

    As someone earlier posted:

    "What Happens to Stop Orders in a CME Velocity Event?
    If the Stop Order Triggers Before the Event:
    Once triggered, a stop order becomes a market order (or a limit order if it's a stop-limit).
    Since market orders are canceled during a velocity event, a triggered stop-market order would be removed from the order book.
    This means it does not remain pending during the event. Instead, the trader must manually re-enter the order after trading resumes, unless an automated system replaces it.
    If the Stop Order Has Not Yet Triggered Before the Event:

    The stop order remains active but untriggered.
    Once the market resumes, if price moves to the stop level, the order will then trigger and execute at the best available price.
    If liquidity is poor post-event, the execution price could be much worse than expected, leading to slippage."

    In my opinion number 1 is more likely, his order got cancelled, but because he also had a max loss limit on his account the platform probably send a new order to close the trade.

    Anyway, slippage in a situation like this is unavoidable, even if the order wasn't cancelled due to the velocity event his exit probably wouldn't have been at a better price.
     
    #121     Feb 14, 2025
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  2. volpri

    volpri

    Why don't you test it out in your billion dollar account LOL?
     
    #122     Feb 14, 2025
  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

  4. 1RoD

    1RoD

    I need little help about stop-loss order and Velocity logic at CME Globex.
    If I send stop-loss order (not as part of OCO or Bracket orders) to Globex before start Velocity logic pause and this order is accepted by Globex,
    this stop-loss order will be filled although it started Velocity logic pause ?
    Thanks !
     
    #124     Feb 15, 2025
  5. p0box4

    p0box4

    "What Happens to Stop Orders in a CME Velocity Event?
    If the Stop Order Triggers Before the Event:
    Once triggered, a stop order becomes a market order (or a limit order if it's a stop-limit).
    Since market orders are canceled during a velocity event, a triggered stop-market order would be removed from the order book.
    This means it does not remain pending during the event. Instead, the trader must manually re-enter the order after trading resumes, unless an automated system replaces it.
    If the Stop Order Has Not Yet Triggered Before the Event:

    The stop order remains active but untriggered.
    Once the market resumes, if price moves to the stop level, the order will then trigger and execute at the best available price.
    If liquidity is poor post-event, the execution price could be much worse than expected, leading to slippage."
     
    #125     Feb 15, 2025
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  6. 1RoD

    1RoD

    Thank you for your help.
    if I understand correctly stop-limit order will still work besides that is Velocity logic pause ?
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2025
    #126     Feb 15, 2025
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    #127     Feb 15, 2025
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  8. cesfx

    cesfx

    Not guaranteed.

    The stop will activate the limit order.
    But if price gaps or flies past through it without revisiting it... It won't.
     
    #128     Feb 15, 2025
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  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    Or no stops. :D:p
     
    #129     Feb 15, 2025
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    That is why my averaging down failed that day. :banghead:
     
    #130     Feb 15, 2025