Market Delta by bolter

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by bolter, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. bolter

    bolter

    Here's an idea that maybe of use. One of the systems I'm working on uses a MACD, one of the more useful technical indicators IMHO. However, it has certain characteristics that detract from it's usefulness. 1) It's momentum divergences are often suspect. 2) A short term burst in price skews it's values.

    So I got to thinking that perhaps I can construct a pseduo-MACD from delta (as opposed to price) to address the aforementioned issues and to provide a mechanism for confirming the MACD and it's signals.

    Here's what I came up with. The first indicator is a traditional MACD (12,26,9,exp). The second is the pseudo-MACD constructed from delta (using the VB). This is from yesterdays ER2 action.

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    #311     Nov 30, 2006
  2. bolter

    bolter

    You'll notice that it has very similar shape to the MACD, but it does have a little more noise. However, it does tend to produce signals alot earlier. You can see from this chart that the MACD produced two false divergences, however the pseduo-MACD got it exactly right. In fact the divergence combined with the cross-over just after 00:15 absolutely nailed the high of the day. The subsequent zero-line cross was 8 bars ealier on the pseudo-MACD.

    I don't propose to replace the MACD with it, but rather use it as an adjunct. Having the same indicator (sort of) constructed from price and from delta provides a very useful form of confirmation, or lack thereof.

    Note: Chad added the ability to generate indicators from the VB in the current release. I'm going to look more closely at this feature. I have not used that technique in ths case. If want me to post my settings I can do so.

    later,
    bolter
     
    #312     Nov 30, 2006
  3. bolter

    bolter

    Of course the astute among you have already thought "wait a minute I can construct a pseudo-MACD for just the big lot traders because they are the smart money".

    Well yes you can, and no they ain't. Certainly in the case of the ER2, you would be well served by using a pseudo-MACD for trades < 10 lots. Here's an example from yesterday. You'll notice they were net sellers well before the selloff got underway. So how does the big lot pseudo-MACD look? - well you better do you your homework.

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    #313     Nov 30, 2006
  4. Here's the same thing for the DAX. It's quite choppy, but it does lead the conventional MACD. IB feed may be a factor in chop, but I'm more inclined to think its just the nature of the DAX.
     
    #314     Nov 30, 2006
  5. billg155

    billg155

    hey guys check out market delta new website. trevor did a nice job
     
    #315     Nov 30, 2006
  6. Yes it turned out very sharp....I agree.

    www.marketdelta.com
     
    #316     Nov 30, 2006
  7. bolter

    bolter

    This thread seems to have run its' course.

    Thanks to all for your participation and interest. I hope it was of some benefit.

    Moderators - please close this thread down. And thanks for keeping the lunatics at bay.

    bolter ..... out!
     
    #317     Dec 1, 2006
  8. Charly

    Charly


    Yes yes Bolter
    I would love to learn more about your settings.
    AND I would appreciate more details
    about how to use MD since I am a
    complete newbie to MD. Have been
    thinking about it since I first saw it
    here 2 days ago - don't even know
    what it contains.
    Is it just an addition of the bid- and ask
    trades or what else or what else does
    it include?
    Would save me hours/days of reading in various threads + homepages.
    Which software(s) make(s) it available in this way etc. etc.

    Thanks to you
    and others who care to answer and help (dcraig - 5Pillars etc.)

    Charly
     
    #318     Dec 1, 2006
  9. Thanks Bolter.
     
    #319     Dec 1, 2006
  10. Charly

    Charly

    Thanks you dcraig,

    lokks very interesting although your
    chart stioll looks like a daily to me.

    May I have a look at a real 1 or 2 m.-chart
    to get a better feeling for it since I only
    trade intraday very short term.

    Furthermore how do these 2 indicators * MD + MACD * compare to :
    EhlersFIR and the TrueStrenghIndex
    and the Orderbook Delta???

    Since you use your own software I
    wonder which software contains all these items?

    Charly
     
    #320     Dec 1, 2006
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