Market Delta by bolter

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by bolter, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. Chart attached shows 2 trades I've taken on a 15min TF. Look for divergence and shift in MD to time entries and just trace it using lower tfs. Hope this helps.

    Cariocas
     
    #171     Nov 9, 2006
  2. Same story with ES. I don't trade it but one can see that it had a clear(n) breakout to the upside. This is a very ideal setup/pattern.

    Cariocas
     
    #172     Nov 9, 2006
  3. jl12

    jl12 Guest

    Cariocas -Nice clear setup.
    Have you programmed the bars green /red to be a straight ratio of -+ delta
     
    #173     Nov 9, 2006
  4. pwstreet

    pwstreet

    Hi all. I'm a new user of MD and have really found this thread (and bolter's MP thread) helpful. Thanks to all that make it great.
    I'm wondering if anyone uses the "Min\Max Delta rows" feature on their footprint charts. Something I've noticed is that in the case of a swing down, delta is normally close to or equal to the Min delta. Then you will notice the next bar makes a new low but the delta for this bar will jump up to Max delta or very close. This seems to be a good indication of at least a short term bottom. Same thing at tops.
    I've attached an example showing ES trending down into low at 10:30 bar. Note how during swing down delta was pretty close to min delta each bar but at low bar at 10:30 the delta finished virtually at Max delta.
    I'm wondering if anyone has noticed this and if so, how they are using it, if at all.

    Thanks, Bill
     
    #174     Nov 9, 2006
  5. Hi j, yes the bars indicate the delta ratio.

    Cariocas

     
    #175     Nov 9, 2006
  6. xxxskier

    xxxskier Guest

    pwstreet,

    yes, i've noticed the delta min/max follow the swing as well. i don't use it to trade off, certainly not for an entry, but i do consider it if i'm nearing a target level or some other key reference level.

    to me, MD simply serves to bolster my confidence (or not as the case may be) once i'm in a trade, and watching the min/max data is one of the MD variables i consider. when i first used MD i put too much stock into the delta column data, but after 9 months of using MD, i'm finally understanding how to use it.

    imho, there is definitely an art to using MD, similar to tape reading...you can't just apply a one size fits all approach.
     
    #176     Nov 9, 2006
  7. That is totally true IMHO. I did the same thing when I started with MD. Understandable too, this is how MarketDelta is marketed in the videos with the buy green, sell red, look how easy it is type of marketing. Most certainly not the case.

    Kind regards,
    MK

     
    #177     Nov 10, 2006
  8. Bolter, thanks for the great thread and everyone else for sharing their thoughts openly. Here's a chart of today's setups. There was a loser to the upside...experience in gauging what the entire market is doing will keep you out of trouble most of the time. This can be accomplished by archiving previous charts and studying them in off hours.

    I'd also point out that this was a trending day and even though the deltas weren't huge to the downside they never shifted to the positive side. Look at the triangle breakout. Great setup! Those are the ones that make the dough for the month.

    This is a 15m TF so as a general rule always wait for entry after the delta shift has taken place and confirmed by taking out previous bar's hi (longs) or low (shorts).

    Hope this helps.

    Cariocas
     
    #178     Nov 10, 2006
  9. Agree 100% with you. No substitute for experience and observing the markets 1000s of hours. I'd also add MD without identifying S/R levels is fatal.

    Cariocas

     
    #179     Nov 10, 2006
  10. Bolter...

    Today Friday... Nov 10... is a great day to show the GuppyLine abuse...

    SEE THE ATTACHED PICTURE GIF

    i am avoiding the word pivot point... use any word for the line the floor picks... Bonzo Line, Bubba Line... anything...

    On low volume days the floor picks a important S/R line (in this case it is Weekly pivot R1 but it could be a former high or low daily or weekly point...

    Its just a line that a lot of intra day traders are watching and they (the inside paper) run it back and forth thru that line on a very low volume day... since the day is not and will not be controlled by outside paper (large volume)... so the risk is low...

    so far they have done it 11 to 12 times...

    a redundant thought...

    so it is illogical trading to those exterior to the floor but it is logical and facilitating trade to those on the floor...

    cj...

    :)



    HAVE STOP <img src=http://www.enflow.com/p.gif> WILL TRADE
     
    #180     Nov 10, 2006
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