Market chop... buy the bottom of the range, sell top of range. Nothing other until range breaks.

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by Scataphagos, Sep 26, 2023.

  1. Hello M.W.,

    I am believer in data engineers obtaining algos to produce and edge. Futhermore, more algos the better. I agree with you on this.

    However, question:

    1. Are you suggesting that manual traders clicking the chart do not have a edge and make no money year to year?
     
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    #31     Sep 26, 2023
  2. I'm surprised by this.

    I thought Sun and Scat were proven and seasoned campaigners?

    What(broad)strategy do you subscribe to? I'm assuming longer time frame?
     
    #32     Sep 26, 2023
  3. He would not be aware.
     
    #33     Sep 26, 2023
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    1 outta 2 ain't bad. I don't know who you are replying to but they seem to have scat right.
     
    #34     Sep 26, 2023
  5. Hello semperfrosty,

    I program and back test algos alot. And I run some live as well. Two is currently in big drawdown this year. One algo is doing ok.

    I also manual discretionary click about 10 times a day.

    Whatever it takes to get to 100ES contracts. One way or the other.
     
    #35     Sep 26, 2023
  6. Hello semperfrosty,

    I am beyond aware of the power of an algo. Believe me on that part.

    I probably spend about +10 hours a day back testing stuff.

    But manual trading is more profitable. Reading the chart is VERY easy

    I just like the ES market
     
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    #36     Sep 26, 2023
  7. M.W.

    M.W.

    If purely based on historical pricing data then yes I claim that after all costs factored in one ends up net negative. I can't prove my claim hence my saying more light would be shed into the true state of those gamblers if everyone's account was transparent.

     
    #37     Sep 26, 2023
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  8. M.W.

    M.W.

    I trade algorithmic (market making) and trade an entirely separate book purely based on macro.

     
    #38     Sep 26, 2023
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  9. Good Evening M.W.,

    I perfectly understand where you coming from. I do not know any manual profitable traders on the ES of 1+ years. Still trying myself. But I can only speak for myself.
     
    #39     Sep 26, 2023
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  10. Hello M.W.,

    Do your algos experience long periods of drawdown?

    I have 2 intraday swing algo on the ES and NQ, both been in drawdown since February 2023.
     
    #40     Sep 26, 2023