Market charlatans

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by MarketOwl, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. jsengxx

    jsengxx

    I´am not saying that bigmike is better than elite! I am an elite trader off bmt from today and after spending the whole day on the elite circle I think I have thrown 50 dollars out off the window!

    I was only referring to cj booth. His thread for me is the best thread I even have read on bmt. It is about price action. When you take a trade you must now why you do it and not because some indicator is telling what you must do.
     
    #71     Mar 22, 2013
  2. Check out the guy's site.

    <b>Where is his name? </b>

    If the guy cannot show his name he is not accountable enough to do business with him. That's pretty typical of the BM crowd. Big Mike, who is a vendor too, and Fat Tails prefer to hide behind silly Internet handles instead of using their real names.

    If you are doing business online, you either have the integrity to stick your name to it or you are very likely yet another online conman.

    <b>Where are the results?</b>

    The spreadsheets with hypothetical results do not amount to much. Who can verify that? Show me your trades. At least on a simulator. A good sample.

    I did not check his strategy, so will not comment on it, but I would be careful jumping to any conclusions about the stuff you find on that forum.

    One more thing, which makes this guy look even worse and that I just noticed. Here is what he says:

    "LEARN from a TRADER not a SALESMAN"

    Yet there is no evidence that he is a trader. How can you say things like that? That's an insult to the intelligence of anyone with a normal IQ. Show me that you are a trader first. Otherwise, all I can say is "talk is cheap."
     
    #72     Mar 22, 2013
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    How are you jsengxx !!
    All your good strategy for making money are belong to us.
    You are on the way to destruction.
    You have no chance to survive make your time.
    HA HA HA HA ....
    I precise you.
     
    #73     Mar 22, 2013
  4. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    NY Times says rate of success is only about 1%. What makes trading difficult is that you can do everything right and still lose money, all that said those who last in the business have not only mastered psychology of trading, technical and fundamental analysis, but also have have become masterful risk managers.


    ps http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/business/28trader.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
     
    #74     Mar 22, 2013
  5. Who has a near 80% win rate with a profit factor of 7 as an intraday scalper?

    Come on.... that guy has to be a con artist.

    Big Mike is a vendor?

    What is he selling (beside elite memberships)?

    There was a thread over there asking if Mike was verifiably profitable. It was pretty funny. Everyone got all pissed at the guy who asked.
     
    #75     Mar 23, 2013
  6. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    If break even trades are not counted as losers when calculating the win rate, this is not out of line for an experienced intraday scalper.
     
    #76     Mar 23, 2013
  7. So what that it is about price action? Big deal. You can trade with indicators too.

    You make it sound like using price action is the only way to trade. I use both. I am pretty tired of hearing all this macho talk about price action being superior to indicators.

    One wise trader whose work I have followed online for years likes to say that "the indicator is only as good as the trader that uses it" and that sounds very true to me. Same with price patterns.

    Mastery is the way.
     
    #77     Mar 23, 2013
  8. I have seen traders with a win rate of 90% plus. A friend of mine is one. He got his education from a guy who may be even better. I am not sure about the other parameter, but both of them are doing well and that's what matters.

    Those are very rare examples, but they are real. I can't do that well even with the methods those two fellows are using. That's discretionary trading and your mileage varies.
     
    #78     Mar 23, 2013
  9. Yeah, you could basically have predicted the reaction of these lemmings. This is a cult following, a personality cult. He and Fat Tails can never be questioned or else the whole sham will collapse.

    I seriously doubt the poser even trades, though he claims to be trading for a living. It's more like he sells BS for a living.
     
    #79     Mar 27, 2013
  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Any forum owner is a vendor if that forum owner is making money from sponsorship or off the backs (bandwidth/visits) of its members. Therefore, Baron of Elitetrader.com is a vendor and he once said he makes a good income from Elitetrader.com

    I'm guessing he's making close to 6 figures from this discussion forum only because he's turned down high 6 figure offers by those that wanted to buy ET from him.
     
    #80     Mar 27, 2013