Market activity after Nixon resignation and Clinton impeachment?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Cuddles, May 11, 2017.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    #51     Dec 5, 2017
  2. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Were the Office Of President half of what you purport, there would be no need
    for a White House Counsel.

    Read that slowly, think about it a bit.

    Have a tall glass of milk,
    Have Mom change your clothes,
    and get the hell back to your "positions."
     
    #52     Dec 5, 2017
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    One other item that needs to be mentioned. When the impeachment committee voted to recommend impeachment of Nixon, one of the articles was obstruction of justice. But note--it was not due to the firing of Archibald Cox, which had happened some months prior. ---The firing did not constitute obstruction of justice since the president has the constitutional authority to do so. ---Here with Trump, the left is trying to claim obstruction of justice because he fired Comey. ---There is no obstruction. He had the right to fire Comey for any reason ( in this case incompetence). A president can only be impeached and removed from office. He/She cannot be criminally charged with anything. --furthermore if charged when not president, they will simply be pardoned. Presidents are above the law. Period.
     
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    #53     Dec 5, 2017
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    In addition, obstruction of justice requires the defendant to have lied, threatened or bribed. ---None of that is evident with the current president.
     
    #54     Dec 5, 2017
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    The wrong tree continues to be barked upwards on.
     
    #55     Dec 5, 2017
  6. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Do they have Google on the Interwebs where you live? It's a fascinating thing. I just googled Youtube Trump Lies, and WOW, is it chock-full (and *hilarious*) -- whole *industries* have broken out in the vain attempt to keep ahead of the verbal fece-flow....
    But in your defense of The OrangePhilandererInChief, you leave out that he has not been yet spoken under the oath of a court setting. He's one hand-raising away from an orange suit. (Talk about camo!)
     
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    #56     Dec 5, 2017
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  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Please indicate where Trump has lied, threatened or bribed to obstruct justice. --
     
    #57     Dec 5, 2017
  8. trendo

    trendo

    Whether a president can be charged in a regular criminal court remains to be seen. The concept has never been tested in the courts. There is wide disagreement among law professors, prosecutors and prominent attorneys.
     
    #58     Dec 5, 2017
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    There may be wide disagreement but I can assure you, presidents cannot be indicted. In fact the DOJ agrees from 1973 forward:
    https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/sitting-president’s-amenability-indictment-and-criminal-prosecution


    "In 1973, the Department concluded that the indictment or criminal prosecution
    of a sitting President would impermissibly undermine the capacity of the executive
    branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions. We have been asked
    to summarize and review the analysis provided in support of that conclusion, and
    to consider whether any subsequent developments in the law lead us today to
    reconsider and modify or disavow that determination.1 We believe that the conclu
    sion reached by the Department in 1973 still represents the best interpretation
    of the Constitution.
    The Department’s consideration of this issue in 1973 arose in two distinct legal
    contexts. First, the Office of Legal Counsel (“ OLC” ) prepared a comprehensive
    memorandum in the fall of 1973 that analyzed whether all federal civil officers
    are immune from indictment or criminal prosecution while in office, and, if not,
    whether the President and Vice President in particular are immune from indictment
    or criminal prosecution while in office.
    See
    Memorandum from Robert G. Dixon,
    Jr., Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel,
    Re: Amenability of the
    President, Vice President and other Civil Officers to Federal Criminal Prosecution
    while in Office
    (Sept. 24, 1973) (“ OLC Memo” ). The OLC memorandum con
    cluded that all federal civil officers except the President are subject to indictment
    and criminal prosecution while still in office; the President is uniquely immune from such process. Second, the Department addressed the question later that same
    year in connection with the grand jury investigation of then-Vice President Spiro
    Agnew. In response to a motion by the Vice President to enjoin grand jury pro
    ceedings against him, then-Solicitor General Robert Bork filed a brief arguing
    that, consistent with the Constitution, the Vice President could be subject to indict
    ment and criminal prosecution.
    See
    Memorandum for the United States Con
    cerning the Vice President’s Claim of Constitutional Immunity (filed Oct. 5,
    1973),
    In re Proceedings of the Grand Jury Impaneled December 5, 1972:
    A Sitting President's Amenability to Indictment and Criminal Prosecution
    Application of Spiro T. Agnew, Vice President of the United States
    (D. Md. 1973)
    (No. 73-965) (“ SG B rief’). In so arguing, however, Solicitor General Bork was
    careful to explain that the President, unlike the Vice President, could not constitu
    tionally be subject to such criminal process while in office.
    In this memorandum, we conclude that the determinations made by the Department in 1973, both in the OLC memorandum and in the Solicitor General’s brief, remain sound and that subsequent developments in the law validate both the
    analytical framework applied and the conclusions reached at that time.
    In Part
    I, we describe in some detail the Department’s 1973 analysis and conclusions.
    In Part n, we examine more recent Supreme Court case law and conclude that
    it comports with the Department’s 1973 conclusions.2"
     
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    #59     Dec 6, 2017
  10. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    You forgot libel, but you've got Google. Hit it.:thumbsup:
     
    #60     Dec 6, 2017