Margin requirements for LLC brokerage accounts

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by ajensen, May 9, 2016.

  1. ajensen

    ajensen

    Do brokers impose higher margin requirements on brokerage accounts that are traded through a limited liability corporation? I especially want to know the answer for Interactive Brokers.
     
  2. d08

    d08

    IB didn't, at least a few years ago.
     
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

  4. 1245

    1245

    Not in general. For retail accounts no. A retail account will always be treated like that is all the capital available to meet losses. With some institutional accounts on the futures side, a large balance sheet for the LLC will help risk allowance. A personal guarantee which is implied with an account in your name, provides more comfort if you have assets outside the account.

    For an account at IB, no.
     
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  5. ajensen

    ajensen

    Thanks to you and the others who replied. I emailed IB, where I already have an account, and they confirmed what you wrote.
     
  6. However, they do hose your LLC on exchange data fees.
    But I believe it's either FINRA or the SEC that imposes those onerous fees which can be 5x that of a retail trader.
    They have made the assumption that all LLC's have professional status.....which should really be only for RIA's or Series 7 holders. A very poor definition indeed.
     
  7. 1245

    1245

    Exchange MD fees are determined by the exchanges not the regulatory bodies. And you're not being hosed. They are providing a discount to small retail traders and charging more to professionals. Would you rather they just charged everybody the higher rate? They have to get their revenues from somewhere. if they don't get it from market data, they will charge more for executions or clearing.
     
  8. Thanks for that 1245...but I do think I'm getting hosed with my LLC....
    and how can the exchanges make the exact determination on the rate differential ? 5x, 10x, 50x ?
    So, bottomline, who's regulating the exchanges ?
     
  9. 1245

    1245

    The SEC. Unfortunately, these are for-profit businesses and market data is a profit center. Nobody likes to pay fees, including me. If you want to see who's really getting hosed, take a look at the fees for nondisplay data. In January 2015, some participants went from paying $500-$1000/month to around $13,000/month.
     
  10. Unbelievable !!! I hope Trump abolishes the SEC.
     
    #10     May 10, 2016