margin charge under PM for call vertical spread

Discussion in 'Options' started by njrookie1, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. can anyone please educate me on how IB charges margins for portfolio margin account for call vertical spread? in particular, long dated single name or narrowly defined etf options.

    say I want to:

    long IBM jan 2015 call at 200
    sell IBM jan 2015 call at 150

    IBM is currently trading at $175.

    how much margin equity will IB charge me under portfolio margin? does it cost the same if i switch the direction of the spread?

    thanks in advance for any help.

    njrookie
     
  2. shooter

    shooter

    Go on your sim account, put on the spread and then click 'Try PM' under the Account Window 'Margin Requirements' option. It's a little yellow box on the right. It will show your current Reg T margin and the 'what-if' portfolio margin.



    FWIW, I'm trying to do it myself on sim but because the 150 call is DITM it won't even execute.
     
  3. 1245

    1245

    I can't speak for IB, but I can use THE OCC calculator to determine PM requirements for that spread (I entered 10X) based on yesterday's close. THis is what the OCC requires IB to post for this position.

    $12,603

    Any requirement after that is a house rule imposed by IB.

    See PDF
     
  4. thanks for the input.

    do u have a link to the occ calculator?

    njrookie
     
  5. 1245

    1245

  6. The vert req under PM will be lower than the debit req, but it will converge on moneyness (deeper ITM, higher req). Obviously it's prudent to treat each vert as THE debit requirement.
     
  7. thank u all for the explanation. i will try to see whether i can figure out the occ calculator first.