Mar-a-Lago Raided by FBI

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. Good1

    Good1

    The Jan. 6 drama hearings are about preventing Trump from running, if at all possible, by convicting him of a crime.

    Failing of that, the intent is to smear Trump enough to keep him from winning, if he runs again.

    For example, an indictment is a smear.

    In this case, raiding Trumps residence is a smear.

    If they can manage to get an indictment out of the fishing expedition, that too would be a smear.

    Getting a conviction would keep him from running, or if he won, an excuse to impeach him again.

    The politics around this, and it's flowing from the failure of the Jan. 6 committee drama is pretty obvious.

    And no, he wasn't beat last time. The charts i show in my last post show he was cheated by an operation that is threatening our democracy.

    My personal opinion about how he handled his last term is not over-riding the rationality of this general conclusion. I have complaints about it. What is more detrimental to our country is stealing elections outright, and the dirty politics which emboldens election theft.

    The Jan. 6 hearings is a distraction from what actually happened: An election was stolen, people expressed their frustration through protest. The protest got out of hand with the help of the FBI.
     
    #421     Aug 23, 2022
  2. Good1

    Good1

    This might seem rational to you, while hatred fills your heart. But it will be harder to appear rational when Trump's base shows it's numbers in November 2022, and 2024.

    Till then, you and your kind rely more and more on political smear campaigns. The effectiveness of your campaigns is greatly increased to the degree you can speak together...as a mob. So you do. Those who do are bound to get caught up in group-think and start living in a bubble.

    Bubble boy.
     
    #422     Aug 23, 2022
  3. Sprout

    Sprout

    I was on one of these islands as a kid and remember an event like this as you described.

    This particular soldier dug a cave and had been living in it for ~30yrs.
     
    #423     Aug 23, 2022
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  4. Sprout

    Sprout

    Regardless of your personal beliefs on the matter, here are some facts;

    Wisconsin
    https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/wisconsin-federal-election-challenge/
    https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/wisconsin-2020-fraudulent-electors-challenge/

    Michigan
    https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/michigan-wayne-county-results-challenge/
    https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/michigan-absentee-counting-intervention/

    Read the case source documents and update your mind with factual information not opinion disguised as fact.
     
    #424     Aug 23, 2022
  5. Sprout

    Sprout

    You've obviously not listened to any of the source sworn testimony and compare that to opinions disguised as fact.

    The fundament distinction is one is only valid in a court of law, the other is used to sway uninformed public opinion.
     
    #425     Aug 23, 2022
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  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    If Grand Jury indictments are smears then you should move over to Cuba or some other dictatorship shithole.

    And if there was absolutely any evidence of election fraud, Trump had a DOJ and his own DOJ disagreed with your conspiracy fantasies.

    Only facts matter, your personal opinion are irrelevant, if an election was stolen then Trump had his own DOJ and judges appointed by him to get to the bottom of it, instead after two years all you have is empty conspiracy theories and movies, but not a single winnable court case.
     
    #426     Aug 23, 2022
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  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Politics has been dirty, nasty, and backstabbing since the very first President of the United States.

    The difference today is social media...it has weaponized extremists on both sides of the fence and that's why society is fighting back by holding them accountable after they've threatened, injured and/or killed those with different political views.

    Sadly, those complaining and creating a BIG LIE about a stolen election...they're still using the same election process right now during the GOP primaries. Suddenly and like a miracle...not a single complaint about any stolen election in their own primaries via the exact same process as 2022.

    Actually, I can't remember which state but there was one complaint by a GOP that complained that the other GOP should agree to do a "recount" because votes showed up in the middle of the night from absentee ballots being counted last although there was no legitimate reason for a recount. The state denied the request and nothing was heard about it again.

    As I've stated many times...one party thinks its unfair because they lost in 2020. Watch what happens in the November primaries of 2022 when the Democrats are "expected" to lose control.
    • The DEMs will complain very little and they will not say the election was stolen nor will they create a BIG LIE to cover-up their own failures. Simply, there will be a smoother transition of power from the Democrats to the Republicans in comparison from the Republicans to the Democrats.
    Yet, if Cheney runs as an independent or anyone else runs as an independent...splitting the vote...who will the GOP blame then considering they will not be able to create a BIG LIE in back-to-back elections especially when the same process or an improved election process with GOP people on election boards in key battleground states ???

    This isn't rocket science...the fastest growing voting base in America are ethnic minorities and they tend to vote Democratic or Independent as in they vote against racist/extremist views by those that do not like ethnic minorities...

    Especially when those racist/extremist individuals try to disenfranchise ethnic minorities of their voting rights...it results in getting the ethnic minorities fired up.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #427     Aug 23, 2022
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  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

     
    #428     Aug 23, 2022
  9. Sprout

    Sprout

    Let's see what DT's own words say;
    https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/jul/06/17-things-donald-trump-said-and-then-denied-saying/

    I doubt any of this will sway you.

    That's why your behavior is currently defined (simply by what you have recently wrote on this thread) as a blind-faith devotee to the DT's Cult of Neo-fascism.

    Whether you understand this or not, you are an extremist.

    You will not rationally process the mountain of physical based evidence against your confirmation bias and will only listen to your belief of a Lord & Savior in DT - for he is you and you are him. He is a reflection or your own values, beliefs and morals. Not ethics, it takes mental processing to achieve a code of ethics to guide one's behavior.

    DT's a wanna-be mob boss with a similar destiny as all mob bosses.

    Most likely the above will further entrench your beliefs in lies and claim everything is a "smear."


    I'll leave you with this quote by what some would regard as the greatest swordsman of all time. He had excelled at his art to the point where he used a wooden sword against armed samurai whom would challenge him for the title - Musashi was never defeated;

    “Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.” —Miyamoto Musashi.
     
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    #429     Aug 23, 2022
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    He was defending Putin's invasion of Ukraine because of white Christian God or something, these kind of people will support any clown who supports their stupid worldview.
     
    #430     Aug 23, 2022