Mar-a-Lago Raided by FBI

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. Mercor

    Mercor

    Do you think the Democrats had boxes up ballets ready to go....Ballets they made matching against voter rolls. The ballets when submitted would have been spot checked for signatures that match a name in the voter roll....At that point the ballet would be removed from the signed envelope and the envelope would be discarded, signature and all.
    They would know what name to match by looking to see if the name on the voter roll had not voted in years..They could assume that person had moved or died....Voter rolls never get purged
    .....This is why recounts didnt mean a thing
     
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    #391     Aug 21, 2022
  2. Good1

    Good1

    Not sure what you're implying but you seem to be saying that the process of voting can have some very weak links if states are not careful. When you think about it, the voting process is, or was (in the last cycle because of the new covid accommodations), ripe for fraud. Ballots and accoutrements (such as envelopes) and other evidence of a valid election, are generally supposed to be saved for almost two years. The obvious reason for this kind of regulation is because election fraud IS possible, and might take that long to discover. I would venture to speculate that it could take even longer than two years if the party that fraudulently gained power (from the fraudulent election) uses their ill-gained power to retain power longer than the evidence of election is supposed to be preserved. It really is an unlocked door, if a party is desperate enough to walk through it. There is simply not enough time between an election, and the taking of office, to litigate some kinds of fraud. It comes down to political will. If the fraudsters are fairly confident the evidence will be covered over by well-placed interested parties, then there is nothing the other party can really do.

    This reminds me of the fraud that was taking place in Kansas, a few years before Lincoln was elected president. Back then there was a lot of fraud happening as Kansas was subject to a referendum on the issue of slavery, whether to come into the union as a slave state, or free state. Buchanan was president when Kansas came through with it's supposed election results which determined, allegedly, that it should come in as a slave state. Buchanan was warned, by another prominent Democrat, not to accept Kansas' documentation, as it was highly suspicious of being fraudulent. Buchanan accepted it regardless, as he was pro slavery. This tended to split the Democrat party, just enough for Lincoln to come through with a more united Republican party.

    This is all to say that the wheels of electoral justice grind exceedingly slowly, but grind they will. The voting fraud in Kansas (about 2000 were registered to vote, but over 6000 voted) had a lot to do with Lincoln coming to power, and the settling of the issue (of slavery) through politics by other means (war). Keeping Trump out of office for four years, by an imposter illegitimate asterisk appointee (Biden), could have much more serious ramifications for this nation, than if they had just allowed Trump to retain his well-earned 2020 victory. The change that Trump could potentially bring about can now be much much more impactful than had he stayed and been badgered by CNN for four more years.

    I'm saying this in the wake of Lez Cheney's recent comments on Lincoln, seeming to indicate something ominous is in the offing. I agree, something ominous is coming, comparable to the events that got Lincoln elected. But she is not the one that will be elected...if the polls can be watched more closely this time. The fraud that happened in Kansas in the 1850's was ominous, and led to the actions of John Brown, which was ominous in that he was captured by Stonewall Jackson and Lee. A few years later, it was the South that was seizing Federal armories, not John Brown. The voter fraud in about five states in 2020, i would say, is comparable to the South seizing federal armories as the civil war was ramping up. Despite that, eventually the issue was settled.

    The first time Trump was elected, it was a bit of a surprise, so he had little preparation for office, and the important task of hiring staff. There has now been plenty of time to prepare, and to vet whom to hire as staff. More importantly, there is now some impetus to be more effective in selecting whom will run the bureaucracy (deep state) which survives the passing presidential terms. Something as ominous as slavery once was is now ripe for real, positive change, starting 2024. I believe Lincoln had both the house and senate mostly behind him. Trump might have a similar platform, unlike the Ryan and the Mitchell he had in 2016. If election reform was the only thing that changed, it might be as big as the slavery issue was.

    If ever there was some reason the FBI should exist, and to investigate, it would be something like the 2020 election. But i think it is clear, now, that real, needed investigations won't ever happen while these bureaucracies are continuing to be politicized.
     
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    #392     Aug 22, 2022
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    we stole your election and are going to toss your messiah in prison to rot.
    [​IMG]
     
    #393     Aug 22, 2022
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  4. Mercor

    Mercor

    A typical prepubescent response
     
    #394     Aug 22, 2022
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    good luck with your republican officeholding dreams of 2022 & beyond.
     
    #395     Aug 22, 2022
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  6. Good1

    Good1

    That pretty much sums up the general attitude. This reminds me of Sam Harris' recent viral rant in which he gladly joined the left wing conspiracy to keep Hunter Biden's laptop out of the news cycle long enough to defeat Trump at all costs. So happily did he join the conspiracy that he wouldn't have cared if Hunter's laptop showed dead children in his basement, because of worse things that Trump did, like Trump University.

    Likewise, the 2020 election fraud is also a conspiracy the left is happy to join, and gaslight the rest of the nation, if that's what it takes to keep Trump out of the office. It's the kind of conspiracy Sam Harris described: just people coming together, to act in unison, for a cause. But with the caveat, they know they are gaslighting us. Election fraud be damned. There are worse things...to their way of thinking.
     
    #396     Aug 22, 2022
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

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    #397     Aug 22, 2022
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  8. Good1

    Good1

    Is that all you've got? Will Smith lost a lot of credibility when he thought violence would solve a problem. The Democrats lost a lot of credibility when they thought election fraud would solve their problems in 2020. This will come back around.
     
    #398     Aug 22, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #399     Aug 22, 2022
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    This is total fantasy. You should be advocating we investigate the North Pole because some kids believe in Santa Claus.
     
    #400     Aug 22, 2022