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Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by paysense, May 18, 2007.

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  1. The entire chorus line of fat ladies and Sumo wrestlers is singing. EliteTrader Statements from Paysense:

    5/18/07
    “The only credibility I have is that I can very easily emulate my published results that will strongly correlate (visibly) within about 6-9 months.”

    “Now that I've taken in the C2 site, I am encouraged. My ~10 years experience with actual trade posts to my members has encountered all market periods. That being said, stated results continue to be met.

    It shouldn't take long to standout amongst the C2 crowd. I only wish I had my displayed results before this larger audience, sooner. This will provide me greater credibility, thank you.”

    5/19/07
    “First off, my 'fully-developed' strategy has been such for quite some time. I literally do quite remarkable 'in my sleep'.”

    5/24/07
    “I gave up a high-paying day job and my home to my ex-wife and now manage full-time a subscription-based investment training website..subscribers get 'real-time' trade alerts so they can similarly grow their accounts and learn during the process….the annual values can smell the stratosphere.”

    5/31/07
    OK The public may now "auto-trade" with me at www.collective2.com. The exact trades I make in my funds at www.kingdomcapital.com will be made in "Kingdom Capital Covered Call Fund" at C2. As they say...the proof is in the puddin' and I'm not "puddin'" anyone on when I say these funds rock. But we'll let YOU be the judge!


    I think your own comments have done enough to hang you
     
    #421     Mar 11, 2008
  2. We can go back and forth like idiots, but what I find interesting is your strong opinions (i.e. bold text) and how close you do follow this thread - although my belief (which is "opinion" until strongly proven otherwise) is that you see things incorrectly.

    Perhaps in your past you've been taken by so-called experts and have an ulterior motive - to either be proven wrong (that some can, will and do offer value) or proved right that all are charlatans. Or that you will "get in" if/once desired results are achieved (can't blame you for that).

    Either way you can't possibly even be convincing yourself - even if my demise is ultimately a proven fact! But for now thanks for the attention - it does help since I am not spending much these days to accumulate additional proponents to my results.

    Although I get huge swings of memberships when periods come around like March 2003. Once most everyone has been burned by pie-in-the-sky outfits or leave investing altogether, since the throwing-darts-at-anything-and-watching-it-go-up phase has past. Seems the next strong period is going to again unfold,:D

    Reality will unfold - just stay out of the fat ladies way (I hear she let's loose some awfully stinky ones, lol)

    pS
     
    #422     Mar 11, 2008
  3. GTS

    GTS

    Its hard to figure out what is going with your web site graphs because you have the Y axis scaled to zero.

    I don't know if that is an attempt to hide the fund equity swings (losses) or if it is based on your belief that eventually your fund will hit zero but using only the top 25% of a chart is a very poor way to convey information graphically.

    All I know is that every single one of your C2 systems have been utter failures which flies in the face of your hyperbole at the beginning of this thread about how you are profitable across all market conditions for many many years.
     
    #423     Mar 11, 2008
  4. Not sure what you are referring to when you say I am hiding something - my graphs are easy enuf to understand.

    Usually with 3 or 6 or at least by 9 months I gain a decent separation from the benchmark indices - each year.

    Oddly for the 2007 time frame - thanks to 3 short-lived corrections ALL interrupted with Fed-induced intervention, a nice separation was not visible until a trailing 52-week period as we entered the new year.

    This year we already got a nice jump - and so when the market provides the opportunity, covered call gains will not only be made but will be additive to continue and provide a decent annual average.

    The truth is HAD I kept to strictly covered calls (not futures) for 5 plus 1 month and renewed my C2 fee, well my curve would look like it does at my website - pretty decent for such a short period and well above the averages and the masses and in keeping with the past so prospects can be assured the "hyperboles" are being met.

    It was futures after the fifth month that crashed the account and the next one. Currently I am trying to salvage the next (which has basically crashed), but I feel I know what I am doing with the next four that I believe will produce the desired results.

    I am not trying to prove to you my website results are true - they just are. I am just not dialed into gaining audited results from it. I want to do the (limited-margin) futures traded account (ES, NQ, YM, EMD, ER2) spotting corrective and bull market phases since this will produce a much higher average and be less active management.

    Plus just about anyone can capitalize - if they are ok with traded futures - since just about any account can take say 5k margin and produce the ~150% annual average on say 35k in their account - hence the much added share of C2 subscriptions. Meanwhile, I'll still do my website trade management.

    pS

    Now I'll post my recent Newsletter minus the re-directiopn info.
     
    #424     Mar 11, 2008
  5. Classic Members Area > Newsletters > March 9, 2008
    Weekly Newsletter

    Volume VII, Issue X

    March 9, 2008


    Announcements

    Be sure to capitalize by using our Hedge Fund Manager as your very own personal investment coach! Now included with your Classic or Pro subscription, you may speak directly with Mr. Gilbert J. Arevalo, President & Chief Hedge Fund Strategist, Xxxxxxx Capital Management by simply calling his personal line at (cell) XXX.XXX.XXXX to get your investments back on track - FAST!!

    Xxxxxxx Capital had kept our members in "Stop Losses" mode, a change in our Market Direction call since Friday, 04-Jan-2008. Based on the Nasdaq’s Feb. 13 follow-through, we did issue our "Green Light" directive. However the Nasdaq, S&P 500 and the Dow have since added multiple distribution days - to now undercut the Jan. 22-23 lows of more than 6 weeks ago. While every major market advance has started with a follow-through, not every follow-through has triggered a big bull run. For now cash is still king – with a shift back to "Stop Losses" mode - a change to our Market Direction call effective Friday, March 7, 2008.

    The best way to navigate this kind of market is also the best way to navigate any market condition: exercise discipline - WHICH YOU WILL LEARN as a member of Xxxxxxx Capital Training Institute! If you're a novice covered call writer, check out our two exhaustive Training Seminar series' at XxxxxxxCapital.com, and learn more about mastering a set of proper covered call buy and sell rules. Even if you're a veteran trader, a refresher course is a good idea. Even the most successful investors make their share of mistakes!

    At Xxxxxxx Capital, we lay out multiple strategies for coping with a declining stock or market correction. You'll also find tips on how to spot a follow-through day, so you can be ready to buy with each market recovery. No time like the present, so GET ON BOARD TODAY and begin afresh to learn how to manage your money like a pro! Simply follow along with each and every trade made in our stellar portfolios and you too, will soon understand how and why we do what we do - and reap the financial benefits of a lifetime!

    You may not be aware of it, but the individual investor is hard-pressed TO MAKE ANY KIND OF MONEY with his or her investments. I'm not talking about the occasional hit or home-run, but over any multi-year period (more than one) - even the seasoned pro will likely fall short of the major averages. With the close of 2007, we at XxxxxxxCapital.com are very proud to have afforded our members with 7.32% and 11.56% year-to-date gains, from trades made in our respective Classic and Pro Funds.

    Only by following ALL OF OUR MOVES in and out of the stock market and covered call positions, will you be able to FULLY UNDERSTAND how we have outperformed in the past! Study ALL of our Performance Charts to gain a perspective on how we handle both favorable and untenable market periods.

    Learn how to grow your funds EXPONENTIALLY - AND TO KEEP YOUR LOSSES TO A MINIMUM! In 2006 we avoided major losses to our Funds by side-stepping the onslaught of the year's 15% correction from the Nasdaq. Then we successfully phased into high-yielding covered call positions - just days after the Stock Market bottom. OUR FUNDS MOVED UP 45% IN JUST SIX MONTHS!

    We navigated even more treacherous waters in 2007 with not one, but three very abrupt, short-lived market corrections! Once again losses were contained, preserving our heady past annual gains - for what will certainly unfold as a most opportune time for us to to compound our funds. At XxxxxxxCapital.com we do exactly what we say, year-in and year-out, so Get on board TODAY!

    Glimpse at a recent snapshot of our "Pro" Model Portfolio and updated Performance Charts; Pro Fund and Pro Fund vs Nasdaq and see that our covered call training services are unrivaled in the industry!

    Week in Review: Market Analysis

    Stocks shaved their losses late Monday, averting a second straight distribution day, after digesting a new batch of weak economic reports. More economic jitters and climbing oil prices pulled stocks lower from the start of trading. A report showed the Institute for Supply Management's index of manufacturing activity coming in lower than expected. The index slid to 48.3 in February, down from 50.7 and the lowest in nearly five years. A reading below 50 indicates contraction in manufacturing activity. Soaring oil prices have also raised a red flag. Some hawkish economy watchers worry that rising commodities prices could be symptomatic of broader inflationary trends.

    Metals, wheat and other commodities have also seen their prices climb, in step with the falling dollar. Gold prices have moved especially fast, triggering gains for some top-rated gold stocks. Few other sectors have made much headway, though. Stocks plunged the prior Friday, as most industry groups sold off. Leading stocks have struggled to score successful breakouts or maintain gains. Meanwhile, a number of energy stocks, which forged big gains through much of 2007 and early '08, have sputtered lately. In that kind of environment, the strictest discipline is advised. Avoid any new buys until conditions improve, both among the broad indexes and the market's best stocks. If a stock you bought falls to your stop-loss price, sell it immediately. If opportunities arise for you to lock in profits, consider trimming positions.

    Stocks staged a bumpy ride Tuesday, as a late-day rally lifted the Nasdaq into the black and left the NYSE indexes with moderate losses. The market fell early on, thanks to weak outlooks from Citigroup and Intel. The Nasdaq sank as much as 1.6%. The S&P 500 was down 1.8% at its worst of the day. The Nasdaq rebounded all the way back for a 0.1% gain. The S&P 500 closed in the upper half of its intraday range, though still down 0.3%. The Dow industrials fell 0.4%, the NYSE composite 0.9%. Volume picked up across the board. It rose 14% on the NYSE and 19% on the Nasdaq compared with Tuesday's levels. That tacked another distribution day onto the ledger for the NYSE indexes.
     
    #425     Mar 11, 2008
  6. Tuesday's action marked the second straight session that the market showed resilience leading into the close. It's heartening to see stocks shake off big losses. At the same time, big-money investors have shown very little conviction lately. Stocks stalled after the Nasdaq's Feb. 13 follow-through, then sank below recent lows on Friday. It has been stop-and-go action for leading stocks, with little sustained strength. Only a few leaders have broken out of bases. Most of those breakouts have stalled or failed, with the exception of a few top-rated commodities stocks and a handful of others. Avoid new buys until you see the market show that sustained, consistent strength. Otherwise, you run the risk of accruing some quick, frustrating losses.

    Citigroup's stock continued its free fall, weighing on the financial sector. Mortgage lenders also deepened their losses. Elsewhere, Intel fell hard early in the session, but clawed all the way back by day's end. Late Monday, the chip giant cut its first-quarter gross margin forecast due to lower-than-expected flash memory prices. Meanwhile, Cisco Systems and Amazon.com execs backed growth targets for their respective companies. Those reports buoyed the tech sector, leading the Nasdaq to outpace the NYSE indexes. Oil prices fell almost $3 a barrel, triggering a drop in several highly rated energy stocks. However, in a choppy market, even top-rated stocks in highly-ranked groups are vulnerable to losses.

    Earlier, several Federal Reserve officials weighed in with dour views on the economy. Dallas Fed Bank President Richard Fisher said inflation is now a greater threat than slowing economic growth. Fed Gov. Frederic Mishkin said the economy could face weakness due to the housing market's woes. Fed chief Ben Bernanke said foreclosures and mortgage delinquencies are likely to keep rising. The central bank is widely expected to slash its key fed funds rate by three-quarters of a point at the next meeting, slated for March 18.

    Stocks closed higher Wednesday, giving back some earlier gains amid skyrocketing oil prices and more sluggish reports on the economy. The Nasdaq sat with a 1.3% gain around midday. But the technology-laden index gave back more than half those gains, closing up 0.6%. Lighter volume lessened the impact of the day's gains. Indeed, trading levels remained lower throughout the day, including early on, when the major indexes ran out to their biggest gains. A sizable price advance usually doesn't mean much if it's not backed by a corresponding burst of volume. If anything, it means that big-money institutional investors are not rushing in to buy shares.

    Wednesday's action was the mirror image of that seen Monday and Tuesday. During those sessions, stocks started lower then pared their losses late. The broader trend has been up-and-down action, with the market failing to chart a clear course one way or another. That's a tough environment for growth investors hoping to buy top stocks as they break out and ride them to big gains. Commodities prices continued to soar, including oil and precious metals. Investors often seek out gold as a safe haven when the stock market turns jittery, making rising gold prices, at times, a contrarian indicator for stocks. Some market watchers have fretted over rising energy and food prices. The Federal Reserve faces the threat of inflation with the economy's slowing growth when it next meets on interest rates March 18. The Fed released its beige book reading on the economy Wednesday. The report showed that most of the nation's 12 districts reported a slowdown in economic activity since the beginning of the year, while others saw "subdued, slow or modest growth."

    Meanwhile, Wall Street kept a close eye on troubled bond insurer Ambac Financial Group. The company didn't announce the expected plan Wednesday, instead saying it plans to raise $1.5 billion through a common stock offering. It also set a restructuring of its business. Trading in Ambac shares halted ahead of the news. The stock then dived 19%. On the technical side, the major market indexes have often approached key moving averages lately, only to run into resistance, a negative sign. The Nasdaq's advance-decline line slid to new-low territory, suggesting broader weakness. Leading stocks didn't show much in the way of enticing action either. Breakouts and new highs remained scarce overall among top-rated issues.

    Stocks plunged Thursday, with lighter volume the only consolation. The Nasdaq led the carnage among major indexes, with a steady decline all day. It finished down 2.3%, and less than 1% above its Jan. 23 low. The other major indexes hardly fared better. The large-cap S&P 500 and the NYSE composite each shed 2.2% while the blue-chip Dow lost 1.8%. Midcaps and small caps also took hard hits. The midcap S&P 400 slid 2.7% and the 600 fell 2.5%. Volume dipped slightly, most likely as big investors girded themselves for Friday's employment report.

    Troubling financial news set the tone for the session, shoving aside less pessimistic reports on initial jobless claims and February sales results from Wal-Mart that surpassed expectations. The subprime fallout has dogged the market since the fall rally ended more than four months ago. Gold slipped in trading Thursday, but remained about $20 shy of $1,000 an ounce. Oil settled at a record $105.47 a barrel, up 95 cents. The day’s weakness came across in the market’s breadth, as declining stocks topped advancers by nearly 8-to-1 on the NYSE. On the Nasdaq, the ratio was a bit better, about 13-to-3 as the Nasdaq neared its Jan.23 low.

    Week in Review: Market Analysis (cont.)

    A troubling jobs report shook the stock market Friday, sending the Nasdaq to a new low for the current correction. A worse-than-expected loss of 63,000 jobs in February elevated fears of a U.S. recession. It was the biggest monthly job decline in almost five years. Wall Street — already skittish after weak economic data earlier in the week — wasted no time sending stocks lower at the opening bell. The major indexes rebounded and even made momentary gains at midmorning. But buyers soon got pushed out of the way. The market weakened until a late rebound trimmed losses. The NYSE composite closed 1% lower, the S&P 500 gave up 0.8% and the Nasdaq eased 0.4%. The Dow tumbled 1.2%. Volume rose on the NYSE and Nasdaq, pointing to selling by institutional investors.

    Credit difficulties remain a worry on Wall Street. On Friday, the Fed set new measures to ease liquidity pressures. The central bank increased the size of its term auction facility. It also plans $100 billion in some 28-day repurchase operations designed to swap cash for assets, including mortgage debt. Economic concerns also hammered foreign stocks. If the market's direction was uncertain before, it has taken on a bearish tone the past few sessions. The Nasdaq took a glancing pass below its Jan. 23 low, effectively erasing its gains from its latest rally attempt. At its lowest point on Friday, the Nasdaq was about 24% off its Oct. 31 peak. That's the deepest decline in the composite since the bear market of 2000-02. The NYSE's advance/decline line is near a new low. The Nasdaq's own gauge of advancers vs. decliners is already at new lows.

    For investors focused on the price and volume action of stocks, cash remains the preferred position. The indexes have undercut their Jan. 22-23 lows from six weeks ago. Former leaders have been swatted: Baidu is 43% off its high, Google 42% and Apple 39%. Intuitive Surgical, while only 26% off, may be forming a bearish head-and-shoulders pattern. A few stocks such as Potash are up year-to-date. But they're showing the action of survivors, not leaders. Investors need to take an extremely cautious approach to this market. Those who have taken test positions in recent weeks should keep their exit strategy in mind. With no upside leadership and the possibility of a third down leg developing and financials crowding out any good news, there's no reason to open new positions in growth stocks.
     
    #426     Mar 11, 2008
  7. Risks of the current market have been quite clear for some time now. As this newsletter admonished in recent weeks, the tentative behavior of the market and leading stocks called for cautious buying even when the market seemed to make headway. Taking partial positions in any stock that broke out should have helped limit your exposure. The market appears to be forming a fresh downward phase in its long correction. At the same time, many highly-rated stocks continue to form bases. So remain alert for a shift in the market's direction. Remember, the market looks ahead several months and new uptrends often start when the economy looks sluggish. For the week, the Nasdaq fell 2.6%, the NYSE composite 3.2%, the S&P 500 2.8% and the Dow 3%. The IBD 100 fell 2.4% Friday, 3.6% for the week. Energy and commodities-related stocks form the bulk of IBD's ranking of top-rated stocks. But even in those areas, opportunities have been scarce, despite an intraday record high in crude price Friday.

    Due to the recent heavy institutional selling that has pushed the major indexes to fresh new lows, Xxxxxxx Capital has announced a shift back to our "Stop Losses" mode - a change in our Market Direction call enacted Friday, 07-Mar-2008. This means the market remains in a correction and that we are in our "wait-and-see" mode for one of the major indexes to stage a follow-through. While every major market advance has started with a follow-through, not every follow-through triggers a big bull run. Don't turn your back on the market. You never know how long or deep a correction may last.

    There's a reason XxxxxxxCapital.com pays such close attention to a stock's price action and its volume - one rarely goes far without the other. And when prices make big moves without supporting volume, or volume spikes without price gains coming along, that's often a sign of trouble.

    It is imperative that you cut your losses short. Never let a stock fall much beyond your stop-loss target. At XxxxxxxCapital.com, our members are given a well-thought out, proven method for minimizing losses after ramping up heady gains. Selling quickly lets you preserve your capital for new buys. It also helps you maintain your confidence by avoiding crushing losses.

    With routine precision by side-stepping the heavy losses incurred by most, once again we have preserved most all of our sizeable compounded annual gains. Where would your net worth be had you grown your funds exponential returns year-after-year? Meanwhile, no market rally has ever started without a follow-through. Trade alongside with us when the Stock Market stages it’s next follow-through - as big-money institutional investors jump in to buy shares!

    Meanwhile, DON'T IGNORE YOUR WATCHLIST. Keep your watchlist fresh to find the best opportunities for your cash. With each market follow-through to a new rally, new leaders typically emerge from consolidated bases. Delete companies that have broken down. Look for stocks with superior fundamentals that are making calmer corrections. Also remember that the next wave of market leadership may not resemble the last rally's. Rather than guess, wait for the leadership to develop on its own.

    2006 ended with double digit gains for the major indexes, WHILE 2007 ENDED IN SINGLE DIGITS. Growth investors need extreme discipline to pocket gains in both '06 and ‘07. In good markets and bad, smooth markets and choppy ones, following a strict set of buy and sell rules is the best way to maximize gains and limit losses. We provide complete covered call investment training to help you get your funds back on track!

    Weekly Trades

    Xxxxxxx Capital Classic Covered Call Fund

    This past week, our Classic Fund lost 2.24%. Thus far in 2008, the fund has eased 0.25%, and is currently 20% vested. Thus far in 2008 it outperforms the Nasdaq by 16.35%, the S&P 500 by 11.65% and the Dow by 10.09%!

    For all of 2006 our non-margin fund SWELLED 25.64%. On the year, it outperformed the Nasdaq by 15.93%, the Dow by 9.57% and the S&P 500 by 11.44!

    In 2007 our non-margin fund rose 7.32%! On the year, it outperformed the Dow by 0.89%, the S&P 500 by 3.79%, yet underperformed the Nasdaq by 2.49%!

    We have called EVERY MARKET BOTTOM...within days! See our Past Performance Charts. Get in on the ground floor, since over time - we have never been outperformed!!!

    Xxxxxxx Capital Pro Covered Call Fund

    Our "limited"-margin fund fell 2.24% on the week. For all of 2008 the fund is down 0.25%. Currently our premier fund is 20% vested. Thus far in 2008 it too outperforms the Nasdaq by 16.35%, the S&P 500 by 11.65% and the Dow by 10.09%!

    Our Pro Fund easily outperformed - SURGING 34.17% for all of 2006! Xxxxxxx Capital finished 2006 with our Pro Fund having outperformed the Nasdaq BY A WHOPPING 24.65%, the Dow by 17.88% and the S&P 500 by 20.55%!

    The past year has once again afforded members the opportunity to "enhance" our funds with margin-trading! Our premier fund rose 11.56% in 2007! That outperformed the Nasdaq by 1.75%, the Dow by 5.13% and the S&P 500 by a respectable 8.03%! NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT to take advantage of all our Services - and to reap the benefits of a lifetime!

    Comments from the CEO

    Amidst all this, Xxxxxxx Capital continues to be a shining example of how to navigate through treacherous market conditions. First off, we sell covered calls - that's all we do. By accurately moving back into stocks just days after each market bottom we consistently rack up heady gains with relative ease! If you have been following in step with our Hedge Fund Manager, you are now well ahead of the game. Just one look at our Performance Charts and it's easy to see why Xxxxxxx Capital Training Institute...IS HOME OF THE BEST-PERFORMING INVESTMENT FUNDS on the planet!

    Just because there are few breakouts worth buying right now doesn't mean you should give up and lose interest. In fact, now is the time that smart investors put in the work. Analyze and scrutinize your past trades to see what went right and what went wrong. Recognize your weaknesses and work to improve them. Whether you're failing to cut losses, buying subpar stocks or buying at the wrong time, you always can improve if you recognize the problem and work to fix it. Remember that most big winners build their bases during market corrections. That means you should be keeping a close eye on the market, trolling for top-rated stocks that are forming bullish price bases.

    Many of these lessons CAN ONLY BE LEARNED AT Xxxxxxx Capital Training Institute! Watch and learn as our Hedge Fund Manager demonstrates "LIVE" these proven methods in our Covered Call Funds. To get "An Overview of This Website" see FREE Training Seminar 1.

    Once again our Covered Call Investment Strategy reigned supreme - easily handing our members handsome 25.5% and 34.2% annual gains in our respective Classic and Pro Funds for all of 2006!

    If your investment methods have left you helpless, DON'T GIVE UP! Xxxxxxx Capital Training Institute will give you what you want - to get your money back on track in a seamless and timely manner. Spend time with us and be encouraged that we know best how to grow your accounts with our Historical Averages. We have yet to see a better-performing investment fund!

    We offer complete investment training direct from our Hedge Fund Manager. This unique "hands-on" training approach is designed to transform the individual investor into a seasoned professional (or at least get your returns consistent with ours) - within months! Simply go to KingdomCapital.com and SUBSCRIBE to our Free Trial today.

    Watch and learn how to manage out-sized returns on a consistent basis as we grow our funds at XxxxxxxCapital.com - the world's only "LIVE" covered call fund!
     
    #427     Mar 11, 2008
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    #428     Mar 14, 2008
  9. You are do successful, you are grubbing for free publicity, against the rules of elitetrader? Are you that hard up for subscribers to your "successful" offerings? Are you linking to your numerous C2 dud systems so people can see how you REALLY do?

    I don't see "sponsor" under your name????

    Paysense, you are as desparate, self-deceived, hapless, and foolish as they come. And those are your good points...

     
    #429     Mar 14, 2008
  10. Hey man - see a doctor, they have medications for your condition. I am NOT against your benefit. You may need the help, sincerely.

    pSen$E
     
    #430     Mar 16, 2008
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