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  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    If you want to see a nice C2 account: :)

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    #321     Aug 10, 2007
  2. Pekelo:

    You are right, what is that a 10-month chart? By perpetuating that return over say 5 or even 10 years could put you in some good company.

    Let's see...100k to 125k, then drawdown ~44k=

    44k/125k or 35.2%

    Then a nice rocket ship up to 200k, so by repeating pattern...

    (1-.352) or .648x200k = $129,600.

    And again, 1.25 x 129.6k = $162,000.

    .648x162k = $104,976

    Remember went from 81k to 200k or 119/81 = 1.469

    So 2.469x104976= $259,200

    and again and so on and so on.

    160% in 20 months - Excellent!

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    Mine kinda sucks -

    Adjusted for realism 09-Aug-2007:

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    Not Adjusted for realism 10-Aug-2007:

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    But I too, plan on a nice exponential jump once this correction terminates:

    Classic Fund (non-margin)

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    Pro Fund (limited-margin)

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    Paysense
     
    #322     Aug 11, 2007
  3. Pro Members Area > Newsletters > August 5, 2007

    Weekly Newsletter

    Volume VI, Issue XX-XI
    August 5, 2007


    Announcements
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    The market fell into a correction during the prior week. As the market weakened, big price drops accompanied stocks’ increased volatility. The broad indexes reversed lower several times, closing at the bottom of their intraday ranges.

    Stocks bounced back Monday staging a lukewarm rebound after two straight high-volume declines. Big price drops in rapid volume cast the market into a correction the previous week. Ideally you’d like to see the market stage a powerful rebound in robust volume in response to that kind of pronounced selling.

    After a heartening opening Tuesday, a late slide turned stocks south and closed lower. With a dramatic selling deluge on the close, a number of leading stocks were dragged down in the process. Volume rose on both exchanges. Tuesday’s decline established new near-term lows for the Dow and Nasdaq.

    We currently are in "Stop Losses" mode, a change in our Market Direction call enacted Thursday, 26-Jul-2007. We are now looking for a move that would signal a follow-through. Not every follow-through day triggers a new rally, though. You also want to see top-rated stocks notching gains in robust volume, or breaking out of bases. Without that leadership, a rally can often lack the fuel to keep going for long.

    On that front the news wasn’t great. The IBD 100, a proxy for the action of top-rated stocks, fell 0.8% Tuesday. More troubling was the action of institutional-quality stocks. Some leaders that had held up during the market’s recent struggles took a hit Tuesday. Negative action from Apple and some other big-name techs took a bite out of the Nasdaq 100. That index slid 2.1%, slicing through its 50-day moving average for the first time since April 2.

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    #323     Aug 11, 2007
  4. The market shifted toward the biggest, bluest of the big-cap names at the expense of smaller companies, as stocks closed a volatile session with a positive reversal Wednesday. Stocks again traded in an uneven pattern Thursday, as another round of late-day gains lifted stocks fueled by a final-hour surge that sent the major indexes into the black.

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    A fresh round of credit market fears whacked stocks Friday, sending the major indexes down sharply in broad selling. The Nasdaq dived 2.5%, the Dow industrials 2.1%. The S&P 500 plunged 2.7%, the NYSE composite 2.6%, as both those indexes sliced through their 200-day moving averages. Volume swelled across the board, adding another round of distribution to a market beset by selling lately. Friday’s action confirmed what has been evident for more than a week: The market is in a correction.

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    Week in Review: Market Analysis
    The major market indexes delivered a modest reply to last week’s sell-off, grabbing some price gains in lower volume Monday. The stock market started the day lower. But the Nasdaq rebounded to close up 0.8%. The Dow industrials rose 0.7%, the S&P 500 1%, the NYSE composite 1.2%. Volume receded across the board.

    Although volume waned, the major indexes did recover Monday after hitting new near-term lows in the morning. While it was encouraging to see the stock market firm up after a tough start, you never know how deep or long a correction may progress. Let the market itself answer that question. Elsewhere, Treasury prices fell, hoisting the yield on the 10-year note up to 4.81% from 4.75% on Friday. Investors rushed into the bond market’s safe haven in the previous week amid stocks’ sharp decline.

    A fresh round of worries over the faltering credit market sent stocks reversing sharply lower Tuesday, dragging down a number of leading stocks in the process. The Nasdaq gapped up at the opening bell and was up 0.9% about 30 minutes into the session. But that rally proved short-lived: Selling intensified as the day wore on, as volume swelled across the board. The technology-laden index closed down 1.4%, at the bottom of its intraday range. The major NYSE indexes showed similar action.

    Mortgage lender American Home Mortgage Investment fanned the market’s credit fears, saying its borrowing pipeline had dried up and that it was considering liquidating assets. The stock, already in a nose dive this year, crashed 90% in gigantic volume.

    A late-day reversal hoisted stocks into the black Wednesday, with the Dow leading the way. Buoyed by a big reversal in the session’s final minutes, the industrial average finished up 1.1%. The S&P 500 gained 0.7%, the NYSE composite 0.2%. The Nasdaq rose 0.3%. Nasdaq volume picked up compared with Tuesday’s level, while NYSE volume eased.

    Wednesday’s action continued the market’s recent volatile trend. The Dow swung from positive to negative multiple times during the day before jumping back above break-even late in the day. That index ultimately bagged the biggest gain, as investors moved into blue chips.

    Top-rated stocks didn’t benefit from bargain hunters’ late surge. The IBD 100 picked up just 0.1%, which wouldn’t be surprising if program trading was indeed behind the last-minute buying binge as some on the Street speculated. Meanwhile, the CBOE volatility index, or VIX, spiked briefly to 26.22, its highest level since April 2003. The put-call ratio, which measures the amount of bearish puts vs. bullish calls bought by options traders, hit 1.26.

    Stocks notched their second-straight gain in lighter volume, Thursday. Even still, at XxxxxxxXxxxxxx.com we train members to exercise patience. Don’t try to anticipate a market upturn or a follow-through before it happens. Let the price and volume action of the major indexes and leading stocks guide your hand. Follow their lead, instead of trying to predict what they might do.

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    #324     Aug 11, 2007
  5. Concerns about the subprime mortgage market and tighter credit standards continue weighing on Wall Street. Thursday, Accredited Home Lenders warned it may go out of business. Shares plunged 35%. Its acquisition by buyout firm Lone Star is now in doubt.
    Week in Review: Market Analysis (cont.)
    Subprime fears triggered another stock market sell-off on Friday. By day’s end, the major indexes closed at the bottom of the day’s trading ranges, with heavy losses. Early, moderate declines snowballed into big losses, with an especially nasty close.

    Initially stocks were dragged lower partly by news that Standard & Poor’s cut Bear Stearns’ long-term credit outlook following the investment bank’s hedge fund problems. Then, in a conference call with analysts around 2 p.m. EDT, Bear Stearns CFO Sam Molinaro called the troubles in the credit market the worst he’d seen in 22 years. The market turned sharply lower after headlines from that call came out.

    If you decide to hold onto a stock or two, it’s best if you take a stand with elite, institutional-quality issues. However, when a market correction lasts long enough, it can eventually take a bite out of every leading stock. Over the past two weeks, more and more top-rated stocks have fallen in sharp volume.

    Credit card issuer MasterCard swooned, dropping 8% in brisk trade. A highly liquid leader that bagged big price gains earlier this year, MasterCard has plunged lately, slicing through its 50-day moving average Wednesday and continuing lower. It’s now 25% off its July 13 high. Stocks suffered a third straight week of losses. The Nasdaq tumbled 2%, while the S&P 500 lost 1.8%. The Dow slipped just 0.6% as big investors looked for shelter in the biggest blue chips.

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    Paysense
     
    #325     Aug 11, 2007
  6. BJL

    BJL

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    #326     Aug 12, 2007
  7. GTS

    GTS

    Trades 53
    Profitable 26
    Losses 27
    Win % 49.1%

    Cumu $ ($9,915)
    after typical commission ($12,745)
    Avg Win $2,402
    Avg Loss $2,680
    Profit Factor 0.9:1
    Compound Annual % -39.3% over 74 days
    Sharpe Ratio -1.502
    Max Drawdown 23.01% (20070530 to 20070807)
     
    #327     Aug 12, 2007
  8. My win/loss ratio sucks because C2 makes me "leg into" spread and buy-write trades.

    The short sells subsequently are deemed as losses, when in fact these are for the most part successful trades.

    Collective2 hasn't taken any action over the years to properly account for these types of trades.

    More glaring is my 9% loss over 2+ months. I am however almost 20% up from my low - all done very recent.

    I can honestly say 10% of my drawdown was due to easily corrected errors on my part - that won't likely show up again as severe.

    WOTM Index Spread trades in the QQQ, DJX and perhaps soon the RUT have helped with my recent gains (off the lows).

    More importantly, once this Stock Market "bottom" to the correction is targeted, most gains in my funds will occur. You see...with this strategy, gains that mostly come from covered calls will NOT happen until we are back in an uptrend.

    However with a prolonged correction, weak managers will pullback or be eliminated - thereby enabling me to outperform (and perhaps make some gains).

    I know most new or 'weak' traders get excited about taking a small account and finding some "winning" system to throw their money into - subsequenly I am currently deemed a real loser (didn't run my account straight up for 3 months with option or leveraged "winning" trades to prove to all how GREAT I am).

    I am in with what works for the long-haul. 50%+ gains compounded on average throughout multi-year periods with little time, effort or risk.

    I am on track :p

    Paysense
     
    #328     Aug 12, 2007
  9. GTS

    GTS

    That implies that your actual max drawdown was 29% and not 23% as C2 reports. Hmmm.

    Is that suppose to reassure people that seek you out for your sage advice?
     
    #329     Aug 12, 2007
  10. No, no, no.

    C2 reprorted drawdown "correctly" at 23% with one "leg" of my DJX spread tread quoted from 'last trade' or 20 minutes before the market close (the other leg was quoted close to the close) - hence an addition 3-4% "drawdown"!

    That is why my equity curve is so sharp at recent low. Of course this came back into align with the first trades the next day...but $1.30 reported as $1.55 at 150 contracts cost me almost 4% of my drawdown.

    So calculate it...23% DD or 23k off 100k rises to 90k. 13/77=.1688 or 16.88% off the lows in 2 days. This was done in a very low risk manner. I initiated "spread" trades on indexes when the DJIA (or QQQ) moved higher up in its trading range.

    The strikes were selected ABOVE strong overhead resistance and were in keeping with my bias that since the 24th and 26th of July - we are in a correction. In other words it may take great strength for the indexes to find a bottom, move far enough up to break through resistance and close ITM by next Friday.

    The prices for these trades - with the recent retesting of lows - are now practically FULLY REALIZED. So the win (even though reported by C2 as 50%) is almost 100%.

    You are right, of course and I am unworthy.

    Paysense
     
    #330     Aug 12, 2007
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