Making of a method

Discussion in 'Journals' started by game, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. game

    game

    My relatively short experience with pattern backtesting, and the disappointment with the ensuing forward testing of these patterns, was beneficial in that it reinforced the limitations of a mechanical approach. I am re-posting the following in reference to your earlier inquiry about the hinge pattern. I am sure you are already familiar with this thinking, but repetition helps me for sure.

     
    #651     Sep 9, 2013
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    The hinge is almost a specialty. I suppose it's possible to trade it mechanically, but then it's possible to trade a range mechanically too. But there are psychological nuances to the hinge that many people find difficult to process. Therefore, unless one "takes" to it, it's probably best to leave it alone.
     
    #652     Sep 9, 2013
  3. game

    game

    "....the most robust evidence indicates that this wisdom-of-crowds principle holds when forecasts are made INDEPENDENTLY before being averaged together. In a true betting market (including the stock market), people can and do react to one another's behavior. Under these conditions, where the crowd begins to behave more dynamically, group behavior becomes more complex"

    - the signal and the noise

    Viewing all this as a bazaar/vegetable/fish market has been opening doors.

    One end of the spectrum is betting based on the economics of the business and at the other end is betting based on auction market dynamics.

    I remind myself that I have no edge in auction markets unless I am betting based on behavior.
     
    #653     Sep 9, 2013
  4. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    You'll find quite a few traders who talk derisively about "the herd" without understanding that it is the "herd" that moves markets, and that the herd is always right, except at turning points. To try to trade against this herd is not the brightest choice. Many of these quasi-cognescenti do exactly that, of course, which is fine by me. Look at last Friday.
     
    #654     Sep 9, 2013
  5. game

    game

    FT Day 13 Sept 10

    Since this is new territory, use the OH and OL as tentative S/R levels. If the initial trend move is missed use continuation opps to get in.

    R: 3189 (PM High)
    R: 3188 (PM Congestion top)

    S: 3182 (SL from PM)
    S: 3179 (SL from ON)
    S: 3175 (Former R via Yesterday's high and SH from ON)
    S: 3167 (Multiple tested S level. Tested at yesterday's close and then during ON) Also is mp zone of upwave from 46 t 89.

    Story 1: The strong trend from yesterday continues onward.The LOLR is up.

    Story 2: The overbought condition causes back and forth swings to establish a value level. 75 and the more important level of 67 are tested as S. A Reversal would go all the way back to test 50.

    Review:

    Trade 1: Short taken as hinge (starting from PM) broke down and then retraced back to DL.

    Trade 2: New hinge formed with the action from the open. Broke upside and failed. Then broke down. The ret went back to DL and then turned to hit sell stop. S came in at anticipated level of 79.

    http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1378825529690.png
     
    #655     Sep 10, 2013
  6. ammo

    ammo

     
    #656     Sep 10, 2013
  7. ammo

    ammo

    nq market profile
     
    #657     Sep 10, 2013
  8. ammo

    ammo

    nq 30 minute
     
    #658     Sep 10, 2013
  9. ammo

    ammo

    game, everyone seems to start(making of a method) from a small timeframe,try the opposite if you are still simming,look at the larger timeframes and notice what the biggest players are doing, eventually you would like to understand how they operate, the smaller players are their merchandise,think of the fisherie example,then with a small acct,you wouldnt have to trade 3 or 5 or 10 trades a day,you could trade once or twice a month,and build up your capital to increase those trades in either size or frequency,those are the easiest trades,tradingf the intraday moves builds in a fear factor,trading the extremes, longer term s/r,even on sim,you are always (99% of the time)aware of the big players motives, you have the large picture in your head,unlike a scalper who at first is like an ant at a picnic not noticing the large boot descending upon him
     
    #659     Sep 10, 2013
  10. game

    game

    Based on my understanding of your method, I am assuming that you are anticipating price to move down to the area between 79 and 75 (as seen on the 30 min chart you posted)
     
    #660     Sep 10, 2013