Making of a method

Discussion in 'Journals' started by game, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. game

    game

    Foresight chart

    http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1369961509673.png


    Replay chart

    http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1369966070256.png

    Key Points:

    8:29 Trading Range is anticipated to lie between 3005 and 2983 with MP of 2994.

    8:31 Price crosses premarket R of 3000.

    8:40 Fast 3 point climb to reach R of anticipated TR. Been rejected 4 times at this level in the past.

    8:48 Price going strong through next R level of 3010. Going to 3020?

    8:50 Up 10 points straight. Buying waves smaller.

    8:58 Retest of R fails.

    9:16 Crosses MP of previous 10 point up wave.
     
    #271     May 30, 2013
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    And what did you learn from this exercise?
     
    #272     May 30, 2013
  3. game

    game


    In your previous posts you have said that DS and trend lines are training wheels while S/R are the trumps. So reading that again, along with your post from yesterday, as well as a growing feeling of just having barely scratched the surface, I realized that I have been operating without the trumps.

    A big part of the odds are in S/R. Previously I had been basing everything on just the immediate action and S/R formed from the open. So I was not really trading at the key boundaries. I was also exiting far too early instead of relying on S/R to anticipate movement and playing 10 point swings instead of 2 to 4 points.

    The prep gave me a feeling of being methodical.

    The action at 3005 was interesting because this had acted as a good R level in the past.

    Is anticipating a breakout on a RET the same as a breakout entry?
     
    #273     May 30, 2013
  4. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Are you referring to the 27th or the 30th?
     
    #274     May 31, 2013
  5. game

    game

    The 30th, as price reached the R of around 3005 implied by the TR stretching a few day's back. See here:

    http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1370002044572.png

    Once a RET formed around this zone, would an entry here been based on a breakout principle?
     
    #275     May 31, 2013
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Actually the TR went back only a day. And there's no RET here, assuming that you're looking at the bounce off the midpoint of the range. The long is taken bec of the show of strength at the midpoint. A RET trade doesn't apply unless you're trending.
     
    #276     May 31, 2013
  7. game

    game

    So this would be a breakout trade then?
     
    #277     May 31, 2013
  8. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    If you waited until price broke through 05, then yes.
     
    #278     May 31, 2013
  9. game

    game


    I understand the breaking of the 05 to be a 'breakout' trade.

    But if the decision is made to anticipate the breaking through 05, so that the entry is made below R, what would the classification be?
     
    #279     May 31, 2013
  10. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    If you're buying the bounce off the midpoint, you're just buying a bounce off a midpoint. Not everything has to have a name, nor does it have to be classified.

    Make it simple, then keep it that way.
     
    #280     May 31, 2013