Making of a method

Discussion in 'Journals' started by game, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. boru

    boru

    hey game I was wondering what your exit criteria is? It seems if you got out on a SL/DL break it might improve your results , like I said just curious. I am trying to define a scratching protocol myself , am finding out its true exits are harder than entries. Good trading
     
    #1201     Mar 10, 2014
  2. game

    game


    It's still a work in progress. Ideally, my exits should be based on the nature of the risk taken. Is there high price or info risk? Is there potential for fast adverse movement? What is the opportunity cost? What are my expectations for the trade? Obviously, it's not possible to run a detailed analysis in the heat of the moment. So my challenge lies in developing a simple response to cover the above questions.
     
    #1202     Mar 11, 2014
  3. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Take care, though, that you're not going through all this to protect yourself from the market. If it's just a matter of rapid-fire analysis, focus only on those elements that are absolutely essential. The various sorts of risk are not some of them.
     
    #1203     Mar 11, 2014
  4. game

    game

  5. game

    game


    Prior to entry, I have been asking myself: 'How much price risk is there in this trade'? The goal of this is to bring my awareness to recognize whether there is short term S/R close by, that may provide a buffer to allow me to stay in the trade during adverse movement.

    The other challenge (something I encountered numerous times today), is the issue of interpreting the Demand/Supply balance once the trade moves favorably and comes back to entry.

    All of this is contingent upon good entries of course.
     
    #1205     Mar 11, 2014
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    There's also the matter of how much confirmation one requires, which is a function of how much he needs to be right. These are all personal issues.

    Take, for example, the bounce off the apex of the hinge at 08.
     
    #1206     Mar 11, 2014
  7. game

    game

    I am assuming you would consider my long off the apex as a low price risk entry, given that I did not wait for confirmation through a new local high?

    Price then moved according to expectations to 3714.25. It then retraced. This was expected given price's location at the apex of the previous hinge from the Open. The retracement came back to entry. There was a previous R level (now S), right below my entry. Given the larger LOLR and the presence of this S level, there was no need to exit just because I was at BE. The decision to exit arose from the thought: ' Price is Reversing on exit attempt from Hinge. These Reversals can be hard and fast, so get out. '
     
    #1207     Mar 11, 2014
  8. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Technically, yes. But this is one of those things that can be tested within the context of the SLA. A hinge is after all another form of chop, and one doesn't want to be chewed up in chop. However, the hinge also offers a built-in launching pad. Sometimes these go and sometimes they don't. If one is interested in trading them at all, it's a simple matter to log 50 or so and determine whether or not there's anything in trading bounces off these apexes (or apices). If 80% of them are successful, that should help assuage whatever concerns there might be about "information risk". At the same time, one can determine at what point the bounce has failed, if it has done so, and the best level at which to scratch the trade. This addresses one's concerns about price risk.
     
    #1208     Mar 11, 2014
  9. game

    game

  10. niko

    niko

    #1210     Mar 12, 2014