Making JH' SCT and all his material alive

Discussion in 'Journals' started by WchPl, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. sd2005

    sd2005

    Hi @Sprout , @Simples ,

    I created modrian table based on what Jack uploaded in a thread.
    Refer to the attached 'jh modrian'.
    Is it still valid? I found another version with slightly different content, '*-another version'.

    How to use the table?
    Is it by using lookup of the bottom table?
    E.g. if the prior vol bar is 'PP1', then it might be SET A or SET B or SET D. if current vol bar turns out 'BO.T1', the possibility is SET A or SET B or SET D.
    And, the 'n' column is the WMCN (what must come next)?
    Then, what is failsafe override? failsafe as per glossary 'events used as an instruction to reverse and create wash trades or small profits instead of losing money'. failsafe override = changing trailing stop?

    Thanks and regards.
     
    #571     Mar 11, 2019
  2. Simples

    Simples

     
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  3. Sprout

    Sprout


    There are still some bars on your grid that can form from a high volatility path that you have not defined.
     
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  4. Sprout

    Sprout


    Get out a pencil and paper. Make the x axis time and the y axis volume. Then translate those words into a picture where there are zones that allow for some elements and other zones where those elements are not allowed as one progresses through the OOE of volume.
     
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  5. Sprout

    Sprout


    The second version is the version I created for myself as a way to simplify the locating on EE’s. The idea being that Jack talked about a periodic table of elements.

    You have to be logging consistently and locating EE’s before the table is of much use. The VTP is better assimilated in ‘passes’, ‘levels’ and ‘layers’

    How the logic works is by locating the current EE in the table but when first starting one doesn’t know which trend type it is which is what the sets refer to. It’s just the way it is. So a good place to start is by looking in the 30m chart and locating an obvious change of trend on that timeframe excluding the extended hours. Then one drills down to the 5m bar where this turn occurred.
    One still doesn’t my quite known exactly the turn until one processes a number of EE’s through the table as it self-corrects.

    Until one posts a correctly annotated chart and a log with EE’s, working with the table is premature. The table’s purpose is to define turns and trend types.

    The handwritten log is what drives the forward progression of learning the method.
    The reason for the necessity of being handwritten is that there is a sports memory being developed with the gestures that ensure completeness as well as building capacity, facility and assimilation into longterm memory.

    FS’s are BM,rev and BO,T1’s. Pt1 is overridden by pt1 in the opposite direction or the TL establish by pt3 is XO’d.
     
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  6. sd2005

    sd2005

    Hi @Sprout,

    What is 'high volatility path'?

    Thank you.
     
    #576     Mar 11, 2019
  7. Simples

    Simples

    As bar forms in TF, one may assume it followed path of least volatility in order to make O->Both Extremes->C, leg2 with bar sentiment. Path of highest volatility is opposite path. Lower TF will clarify what path price actually took for that bar.
     
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  8. sd2005

    sd2005

    Hi @Sprout,

    I will be busy starting from Wednesday and will have limited time.
    I really want to learn JHM. I'm trying to follow Jack's by doing the logging and asking questions how to fill in the blanks. I'm afraid by doing extra exercises/drills will take very long and dragging the whole process as I also don't understand how to perform those.

    I value my time and yours. I know you have good intentions, you read my posts and reply back with guidance and exercises to develop my foundation, LTM, etc. But I don't see much progress on my side. I know you did it out of goodwill, I appreciate it. You didn't promise me anything and I didn't offer you anything.
    However, if not much progress, I feel that it will waste my time and your time.
    You know JHM and how to benefit from it. On my part, I'm still searching for answer.
    The answer may or may not be JHM, as I don't know JHM yet. Knowing JHM doesn't mean 100% I will get benefit from it. I may be incompatible with it and cannot utilize it to its full potential.

    I thought since you have gone through the hardship studying JHM, you would be more willing to share the knowledge. You are smart and can find a way to communicate it better and speedier.
    But if you cannot help me on how to do the logging and understanding JHM, it's okay.
    I will try to read other threads and from what @WchPl will be doing in this thread.
    Please, no offense, it's just me disappointing with my own progress.

    Thank you.
     
    #578     Mar 11, 2019
  9. Sprout

    Sprout


    There are no ‘extra’ drills. All are designed for one whom does them to increase discernment and increase what Jack calls one’s ‘spectrum of differentiation.’

    The pace of your ‘aha’s’ are dependent on your own work.

    Nobody can do that for you.

    Given how you’ve expressing yourself and looking for shortcuts, this method is most likely not for you.

    It is however well suited for someone willing to ‘to roll up their sleeves’ and work on changing their perceptions of how markets work. It does require commitment, persistence and dedication. Not so much because of the material itself but more so of all the other stuff we have in our minds that get in the way. It’s a lifetime of acculturation that requires updating.

    To those whom put in the work come the rewards of pulling the ‘full offer of the market’ at any given time.

    You have the price cases, the 5x5 grid, the next is to annotate charts using ‘the pattern ‘ and identifying trends. You do this at the same time as logging.
    There are posted logs that you can use as a template and you fill out what you can and post the result. Doing so allows someone other than you to see what you see and what the next step is to do. That’s just how the process works the fastest. To think this method is like a cookbook and all you need are the ingredients to make an award winning pie is not realistic.

    It’s just too complex and overwhelming. The pieces do all fit together but can you put together a car engine from a box of parts?

    It’s like someone taking a couple of classes of a martial art and expecting to be a black belt and be a winner in a MMA bout or street scuffle.


    May you experience good fortune in your endeavors!
     
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  10. Sprout

    Sprout


    @WchPl
    I think you should stay with your current chart, you’re right there.

    To repeat, you just did your matrices where you either fanned or accelerated trendlines. That makes bar 6 within an estabished TL and progression of trend OR one would ‘carve’ by accelerating the TL and then bar 6 becomes more clearly defined FS.

    Either one can work, it’s that either one leaves more money on the table in different contexts.

    What’s important is to be consistent. It’s from this space as one refines then the ‘carving’ makes more sense.
     
    #580     Mar 11, 2019