Making JH' SCT and all his material alive

Discussion in 'Journals' started by WchPl, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. WchPl

    WchPl

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    The main issue was between bar number 21 of the LAT (8:50am) and bar of 9:00am. Volume shows an increasing form. At the moment it surged, I did not know if it was a B2B. Some bars after, the answer seems to be Yes it was. A new long FF has just appeared right now (white TLs).
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    Last edited: Feb 27, 2019
    #421     Feb 27, 2019
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  2. WchPl

    WchPl

    I don't want to enter too much in the details and that's not really a question i'm gonna ask, cause as you know recently I'm doing a lot of work and drills on things in particular, and I don't want to let myself interfer with this. But, just to express a little how my mind sees volume, and to develop a bit the issue I talked about in my prior post :


    The issue I just mentionned above is repeating itself currently here. The dash line of my mouse points vertically to the point from which I observed an increasing volume leading a long extended tape, going then from pt3 -> to the trend of the long FF corresponding. It's my operating point from which price BO prior established short TL on an increasing volume.
    Volume level was as this moment at 3.585k. If the current volume bar developping ends under this level i'll have a misunderstanding because how could I say there was an increase of volume on that trend segment (that extended long tape) if the volume level reached in the end is under the beginning volume level bar ? Unless price does not XO the long tape and keeps price inside of it WITH volume going above 3.585k, I'll see the same kind of issue as before. No big deal for the now, but it's the sort of situation that has always got me mad when I was doing gaussians.

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    #422     Feb 27, 2019
  3. WchPl

    WchPl

    I'm gonna contradict a bit that statement cause it's like jumping at my eyes and "calling me" ^^
    Although I know that problem will be solved soon, I can feel it, here is a very good incarnation of it and I want to express it.

    It all starts from there : my mind is persuaded that it's impossible to always see B2B2R or R2R2B on the volume pane at the tape level of fractal. AND I'm persuaded that it's obliged to see (= it always appear this way) the B2B2R or R2R2B sequence at each of the three levels of fractals : the fast one (made up with two contradictories tapes/extended tapes with each crossing the prior RTL on an increasing volume), the trading one (two FFs) and the slow one (2 TFs).

    This can be either : always true / sometimes true / always false.

    Feel free to give me a way to verifiy this and find the answer and once I've finished the matrix of 3bars combos, I'll do it. One thing at a time.

    For the now I post this and you'll see what I do not, and surely why I do so.

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    As you can see, there is a tape beginning at 7:55am which is an XB on an increasing volume and that XO prior established RTL, which was short. At this moment of time, so at 7:500am, you can see I put on my volume pane two horizontal bands : a green and a yellow one below.
    The yellow bands expands itself until where I put the short trend of volume after B2B. It is at 9:45am.
    Being as I think the underlined part of the above statement is always true, I was kind of "forced" by my belief to see a B2B because I saw from 9:45am to 9:55am a short tape XO prior RTL on IV, followed then by a new long tape XO prior RTL on IV...and then I was forced to see a long FF. As I'm persuaded I must see at this level of fractal the apparition of B2B, I tell to myself look for it.
    So, back to 7:55am, volume is a t a certain level. that's my operating point. Then , that's how my mind interpretes things : "next bar : IV, so the volume form is INC, next bar DEC but above operating point so still INC form. At this moment, I have a peak. Next bar is INC above prior peak, we have a trough higher than operating point. The form is really INC; next bar is DEC higher than prior trough and operating point (OP), the form is still INC; next bar is DEC, still higer than prior trough and OP, the form is INC; next bar is INC so we have a trough before which is the highest of the two we have and still above OP, the form is INC; next bar is DEC and NOW I can see a DEC form. That's the non-Dom 2B expected after Dom 2R of the short FF we're in at this moment." [...it all continues nicely the same way until...] " bar 8:50am, is INC but still under prior peak that surged at 8:35am, so form is DEC still; next bar is DEC higher than prior trough, let's wait to see if this bar is a trough or if Volume will continue to decrease, form is still DEC; next bar -> AND THERE IT IS. Volume is INC AND -> creates a trough just before which is above the prior one AND volume is above prior peak, so whatever volume does after here I feel there's a B2B so I see a from non-Dom volume support to a Dom volume support on the same trend segement at a same fractal level (tape)".

    In a nutshell, in my mind it's like " from the operating point which is the level of volume on the bar XO on IV prior extablished RTL, I'll compare to this level, the level at which volume will be at the n-1 bar, with n bar being the one that XO that new established RTL. If volume is above, I'll see an INC form for volume, if under, a DEC form. From there in cascade, if I am (as I believe it) to find a certain volume form to corroborate the price fractal I found, and volume does not let me see it, I'm dead lol

    Now as I said before, on my volume pane I put a long green horizontal line from 7:55am to 10:30am and that's the part of the move which concerns the long FF.
    Under that green line, the yellow one ends where I saw the short tape XO prior long tape's RTL on an IV. The, following the yellow band, it's the pink one. And I put it cause I see after the fact that I could have seen my B2B like a very long non Dom 2B, being as after the B2B zone I IDd (so around 9:300am), volume is constantly DEC until...the pink band begins.



    I'll not say more about it, I'm on something else currently, but some time ago writing about that area was a pure nightmare, and took me to anger, madness and fear.

    Thanks to the universe, I've operated a 180° move and I don't feel this anymore at all.

    With that said, I hope that post will help you to ubicate my level of understand of volume forms, gaussians etc. And now, back to the HRE !
     
    #423     Feb 27, 2019
  4. WchPl

    WchPl

    While redacting my prior post, the issue repeats itself :

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    From bar 3 of the LAT appearing on the chart, as I know I'm in a long FF, I think I must see either a non Dom 2R move, or a R2R. But bewteen that bar 3 of the LAT and the next time price XO that short tape's RTL on IV, Volume crealry goes INC, whereas I think I must see 2R or R2R. So I annotate here volume in function of what price does -> PURE non sense for what I am supposed to do lol.

    Never mind, it will be solved soon ;)

    NB -> maybe the thing is just "volume must do this or that, and if it does it before the end of the price trend segment, consider it did what it was to, and all the in-between until RTL is XO -> to the trash ^^
     
    #424     Feb 27, 2019
  5. Simples

    Simples

    The documented logic for EEs may solve volume for one TF. It is a bit more complicated than Surge=Cont or Dv=Change. 2=nD. 2=fractal sync. I havent worked out exactly why rules are what they are. JH mentions months work on EE invention, group collab, 50 yrs xp, even serendipity. All start with parallellograms, thus following price dilligently knowing it will lag, you see there is something more missing, which later may be filled in. After lines one need to be honest about bar-bar, no matter how painful not seeing end result rite away. If interested in volume PP! may be studied first, and turns wont make sense until pv sync. VTP is sort of fs for volume.

    If you absolutely need worry in your life, worry a bit for others. You are taken care of. Without effort, one wouldnt go anywhere, maybe blowing in the wind though.
     
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    #425     Feb 27, 2019
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  6. WchPl

    WchPl

    End of the session. The previous post I sent about volume issues considerably altered my vision for the rest of the session ^^ I don't see anything anymore haha I knew that was gonna happen, it always does. Never mind, this time I was prepared. Tomorrow will be another day

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    #426     Feb 27, 2019
  7. WchPl

    WchPl

    What are you talking about ? What do you mean ?
     
    #427     Feb 27, 2019
  8. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    I will confine my comments to the topic of Laterals. Laterals are always a point of confusion, me included.

    Lats are containers, of a different breed. The big question of a Lat (IMO) is whether the Lat container is...
    1) a sideways "substitute" or "run-way" for what "should" be an upsloped or downsloped container, thereby making the Lat an overlap or ftt of sorts.
    _or_
    2) a sideways walk foretelling continuation of a larger container. This might involve a fanning of a larger container to encompass the Lat, if/as/when appropriate.

    Lats by nature, are comprised of FFs. JH stated more than once that a Lat is either tradable or it is not. Obviously wider is better, but wider also offers more FFs, not necessarily only one FF. Rethink the previous paragraph... is this Lat a "substitute" or just a sideways walk? The answer may give passage to being tradable or not. Beyond that, FF's are not the prescribed trading fractal, so sidelining or holding through a Lat are both acceptable within the JH teachings. If confused, sideline.

    Since the Lat is comprised of one or more FFs, volume needs to viewed differently.
    Below is how I see the "visual fractal" gaussian, which is not necessarily the prescribed trading fractal. It is not precise, and I did not deal with containers.

    HTH, but if it only confuses, I understand and please just disregard.


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    #428     Feb 27, 2019
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  9. baro-san

    baro-san

    If I may ... why don't you use the volume coloring that Jack and Spydertrader recommended?
     
    #429     Feb 27, 2019
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  10. Simples

    Simples

    Just a general point of view to have in life. If not applicable, no worries! :)
     
    #430     Feb 28, 2019