Making JH' SCT and all his material alive

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  1. WchPl

    WchPl


    Based on my last 10 logs.

    distinguishing FS combos.png

    Pre-conclusions :

    Appearence of FS combo is more than anything :
    - out of Lats
    - on INC volume
    - do not continue prior Dom

    Gonna extend the data base and put attention on the evolution of the %, and see if this was a representative sample.
     
    #1631     Feb 17, 2020
  2. WchPl

    WchPl

    Actualized and based on last 20 last logs

    FS combos distinguished on last 20logs.png

    New pre-conclusion : A FS combo happens averagely 4 times a day, it is most often out of Lat, on increasing volume move and not continuing prior dominance.

    Will be updated
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2020
    #1632     Feb 17, 2020
  3. WchPl

    WchPl

    I prefer not going too far back in time, cause the more I do so, the less the quality of my logs is good. Last 50 session are ok, but I think now from the datas I have gathered, it is enough and let's move forward with updating continuously the results, log after log.

    By the way : nice Aha by doing this. Thank you @Sprout

    Based on last 30 logs.

    FS combos distinguished on last 30 logs.png

    So current conclusion : a FS combo is averagely encountered 3 times along on day. Breaking out a tl is necessary when a new trend segment of the same fractal level is there. But BMrev is not. Both BO,T1 and BMrev is powerful in its meaning when I think about the pattern and imagine BM's placed at each pt1, pt2 and pt3 of a given tape/traverse/channel.

    FS combo appears 3 times averagely per session, 4/5 of the time they are not part of a Lat (which is nonDom by nature), 2/3 of the time it initiates a new Dom, 3/4 of the time it is on INC volume.

    Let's eat, sleep, and see you tomorrow for the following of the study of the FCC1, and maybe a post concerning what I just DDd. Great day/night to all.
     
    #1633     Feb 17, 2020
  4. Sprout

    Sprout


    Perhaps there is something in this list of ten that you are currently (not not)doing:
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/exact-science.206518/page-59#post-3068556
     
    #1634     Feb 17, 2020
  5. Simples

    Simples

    #1635     Feb 17, 2020
  6. Sprout

    Sprout

    If you aren’t implementing the core MADA principals, it’s not the JHM and you most likely are learning failure.

    Sports memory can work both ways; success or failure.


    On a separate note, maybe explore the micro’s when attempting to go live. I don’t have any experience with them but your leverage and margin requirements would be less from my brief understanding of them.
     
    #1636     Feb 18, 2020
  7. WchPl

    WchPl

    Just finished today's log, so :

    Based on 31 last logs

    FS combos 31 logs.png

    These stats, and the process behind took me yesterday's evening and today's morning to :

    - the patern
    - the three levels of fractals
    - a lot of DD

    AND

    the following scenarios that one often encounters while doing logs and annotating charts. I can feel deep that my current studies on the cycles is the core, the inside move, and from this will come the resolution.


    scenario.png

    Next post will be the next part of the FCC1 analysis.
     
    #1637     Feb 18, 2020
  8. WchPl

    WchPl

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    Let’s make a further analysis of next paths that are exposed as possible in the ExSc thread, by adding what as been seen in the n and n+1 column posts of mine.

    A>>C>>G

    So we’re at A, we’ve just exited due to non-Dom surge. We’re into midday, volume is at DU/VDU. So we are at C. Then next bar (n+1) opens, and we’re at E. Here , 12seconds after the opening of this new bar (n+1), we use PRV and look back prior bar. PRV shows an anticipated volume above prior peak (peak in the form). It is black or it is red, no matter. So we’re at a G node. We’ve, along this path, met lock in via PRV. At EOB, volume exceeds effectively prior peak and color can be red or black. We’re a G node.

    We’ve made A>>C>>G.


    B>>F>>H to X>>J>>A

    It has already been treated.


    B>>F>>Q>>S>>J>>A

    Same


    B>>F

    Same


    C>>G>>S>>K/J

    Same


    Cwait>>G

    Same


    (F+D)>>L>>M

    We’ll maybe find some subtility here. F+D. What does that mean ? at my LOU I’d say, D goes to F. It could also go to G. Or better said, from B we go to F and from C we go to G. That would, by the way, be congruent with JH’s post 127 where he says « F and G refer to different kind of bars ». Yuppy. In addition, I’d say I see that to pass from C to G or from B to F, we’ve met D. So we’ve met the point at the end of bar n, and at EOB we see the final form, and when n+1 bar opens, by using PRV it is determined prior bar was a trough, which, in other words means, PRV signals we’ll meet lock in.
    Back to the path we’re in. So F is increasing volume move w/ color change, so that’s back to dominance. This cannot be from what I DD, the beginning of a new Dom. A new Dom passes along the same segment from non-Dom volume support to Dom volume support. R2R, B2B in SCT, we need a T1 to have BO,T1 in RDBMS etc. So F+D would be along the formation of n+1 bar that is after a B node (so non-Dom volume move), we see by look back that prior bar will be exceeded (D node). We’re at F. That move would be F+D. And after that, volume can effectively meet lock in and exceed prior bar. We’re at L too, being as any increasing volume move (compared to prior) implies meeting LI and then , L node. After that ,the close of the same bar could have made different back and forth moves inside the bar, making it an IBGS, and close could reach open level. That would make the bar at M node.
    We’ve made F+D>>L>>M.
    NB : I notice somehting interesting here : I see that it could be that inside a given colum, nodes are placed from left to right. The first nodes (most on the left) in n and n+1 column seem to be the first states through which a bar could pass, while the last nodes (the most on the right), indicates the EOB state, to which corresponds a node. Let’s see forward and verify this or not.


    (G+D)>>L>>M

    This path would be the same as just above, replacing F by G.


    F>>Not L>>M

    Retaking the F+D >> L >>M path, we’re at n+1 and PRV indicates we’ll meet lock in, and either prior bar was black and current one is red, or prior bar was red and current one is black (at the moment). We’re at F. I must say at the moment, I don’t know why it is not mentionned that we have « crossed » D node. Maybe this is so implicit that considered as unnecessary to mention. Or this could send me to hone something I do not understand correctly. After F, the given bar will end. If volume ends accordingly with what PRV stated, we’re at L cause we’ve met lock in. But, and that’s the goal of this path we’re studying, volume could end below prior bar. That would be a fail to meet L. In the MADA doc, this is defined as Not L. Logic. Reminds me Not PP1. After that, if close meets open, we’re at M.
    We’ve made F>>Not L>>M.



    G>>Not L>>M

    Just retake prior ride and replace F by G.


    L fail >> X>>A>>B

    This is intersting. L fail sounds to me like the same as Not L. So we have a non-Dom volume move. So we exit at X and are sent to A AND then if we’re not in VDU/DU levels, so not in midday, we’re at B. Sit and wait.
    We’ve made L fail >>X >>A>>B.

    C>>…>>G

    It has already been studied.

    Next step will be studying the left part of n+2 column (right part will be any value of n).

    To be continued...
     
    #1638     Feb 18, 2020
  9. WchPl

    WchPl

    n+2 column nodes (left part : n+2 and higher)

    This is by nature HOLD situation.

    There 9 nodes in this column. They are H, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, Y. Let’s have a ride.


    H node

    H is a choice node. At H you choose J or K for X. Until then, J and K has not been studied. They both are in the « any value of n » part of n+2 column. So we won’t enter into something very sophisticated here. We’ll study the surface when it deals with those two nodes. Apart from these two nodes that are not in the part of the column that is currently studied, X remains. X is out of the chart, like I and O. By nature, X is a point where either J or K failure occurs. So, in surface, whithout going too deep in the analysis, what are J and K ? J forces to exit and sends us to A via feedback, and we wait at A, where we are then to choose between B or C. There is exactly the same thing to do when K occurs. And by nature, J is when voume drops below prior ; while K is surge of non-Dom in any color. I think I remember I had, at first, a difficulty to distinguish those two nodes as they, strictly speaking, alude to non-Dom volume situation. I understand a bit better now that they must deal with prior nodes leading to them making them a same result but having a different prior path. This reminds EE’s a lot.
    Fine , synthetically, J and K are non-dom volume situation and refer to prior different path for arriving to them.
    Now, deep into H node, concretely. At H, you J or K for X. Rephrased : at H, in function of the path you’ve followed/made, you either arrive at J or K, and in both cases you exit, feedback and go to A and then, choose between B or C.
    H converges either F or G type(n+1) when dominance fails during the bar (n+1) for either F or G.
    A little crux here. F and G are for n+1 column. H is for n+2 column. How could a given node be where we are, if the bar we’re in is a prior bar compared to the column that pertains the node we arrive to ?
    My DD : when in n+1 column,
    - after B, so after non-Dom out of midday so above VDU/DU, we arrive at n+1 bar. 12 seconds after open, we look back and PRV says we’ll meet lock in. At this point, the color is opposite to prior bar that is then, determined as a trough. So we’re at F. At EOB (n+1), volume can either exceed prior bar and have its color opposite to prior, and we’d be at L cause we’ve met lock in. (I see here, other options could exist but they do not seem to be covered by any node at the moment. I let this aside for now.*) On the other hand, volue could fail to meet lock in, and then we’d be at NotL (L fail). And what does MADA 12 says ? -> If notL at end of barn then H occurs, then go to J or K by MADA 8 andfeedback to A where you’ll choose between B or C. Woooaw…How good feeling that is !
    So L could occur and take precedence on F or G. Like « F or G at EOB » = L. But Not L can happen too. What then ? If NotL occurs, then H occurs.
    We are studying H node. As far as I have understood it atm, if F or G happen at EOB, it means they have converted into L. But if L does not occur at EOB, then we’re sent to H and we choose between J and K for X, and this takes us to A where we choose B or C.
    ….
    ………
    Ah ?
    AHA ?
    AHAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Ok !!!! Right part of n+2 column is any value of n. ANY.. ANY VALUE OF N !!!!!!! so n, or n+1 or n+2 or higher… Holly fffffffffuNk.
    Well…. If L so lock in happens, then we’re sent to H. We choose either J (if volume drops below prior) or K (if non-Dom occurs, any color). So now, what about the paths before that, that make one choose between those two must-be-differentiated non-Dom situations ? Let’s let this to last column study. In any case, H node is when either F or G failure occurs. Just to remind : in post 127 of ExSc thread, JH states he can NOT go directly to J or K from a trough AND in post 156, he reminds being on F, ou could only go to J. This is to be put in context, surely.
    H node makes one exit, cause non-Dom occurs. We’re in FCC1, we only take Dom segments. Congruence.

    Well, that was H node first analysis.


    Q node

    The Q node is a choice node. When you’re at Q, you’re at n+2 or higher. You must choose between R and S. What is R ? It is an increasing volume move, same color. And S is a volume move superior to prior trough and same color. Unlike prior situation with the choosing between J and K, both R and S nodes refr to Dom situations. Once again, they must be distinguished. They already are so quite a bit, being one (R) is for increasing same color volume (compared to prior bar), whereas S deals with also with increasing volume move same color BUT referred to prior trough, not prior bar. Here is a first distinction. Is that all ? Wait and see.
    The MADA doc does not inform much more about the Q node. The comprehensions and related DD that could surge about this node will surely come from the study of the sequences including Q node. As an example : B>>F>>Q>>R>>X>>J>>A.


    R node

    So it’s an increasing volume same color as prior bar situation. Dom is at hand. Thus why we’re into HOLD column. We’re in FCC1 after all. In termes of MADA doc, we learn that at R, we hold for T for (J or K) at X or U. I find again the « hold for ». I have determined in a prior post that these words are for « hold because of the apperance of ». BUT, I notice now that..
    Back in time, I said that I DD that F node is a temporary state of the n+1 bar. If volume at EOB breaks out former volume level, we’re at L AND we know at F we hold for L (or for H or J). So this would now, rather be in fact, you hold until/if.
    Back to R node. At R we hold for T for (J or K) at X or U. Rephrased : at R, we hold until T occurs…is a coma missing ? Hold for T for J/K at X or U. So.. Is it :
    - (Hold for T at X) or (hold for J/K at U)
    OR
    -(hold for T for J/K) at (X or U) ?
    I remember JH added the T node in the chart after mentionning he forgot to put it on cycle 1 : triangulate Q, R and V node and inside of it you have T node.
    What is T node ? It is a choice node, where X and U are the choices. So first statement was not true. Was the second one true ?
    What is U node ? This a choice node too. N and W are the choices. I remember N is the doji tst, the node of all nodes. The core node.

    What is W node ? By nature, W node is when volume lock in occurs for either R or S node (n+2). Lock in is defined as volume n+2>n+1. This reminds me L for F or G. (I can feel I know some nodes by heart). And when you’re at W, you hold for lock in and end of bar at Y or N. N is doji test. Fine.
    What is Y ? it is a point at the end of bar n+2, and then you’re sent to Q and choose R or S. It is the « n+2 or higher world ».Dom continues. According to what JH states, it’s rare to face that kind of situation. In RDBMS, that would be « how many times does T2P/T2F or beyond happen ?
    Currently, based on my last 52 sessions, 14 EEs have appeared after T2P out of….2129 EEs. 0.7%. Yes, rare to go farer than 4 bars for example (ignoring non measured internals).
    Back to FCC1.





    To be continued…
     
    #1639     Feb 18, 2020
  10. WchPl

    WchPl


    Remaining to be studied nodes are S, T, U, V, W, Y. Although some of them (maybe most of them) have been already discussed, let’s finalize it.

    NB : a couple of things needs to be honed and verified : first about the « hold for » notion, and the « F node is a temporary stated of n+1 bar that, if at EOB is there, would b converted automatically into L ». I can already feel I could understand the second thing better, almost differently than how I did undertstand it yesterday. Let’s see where the study of the remaining nodes takes me to.


    S node

    By nature, S node is when volume surges on n+2 bar being superior to prior trough and w/ the same color…of the prior trough, of course. Of course ? yes I think that’s what is implicit here.
    S node, according to the FCC1, comes from Q. At Q you are at open so second 1/300 of n+2 bar or higher, and you chosose between R and S. Ok.
    What’s more ? At S, you hold for T for (J or K) at X or U. Great, now, there’s no way of avoiding the resolution of this. So we know at S the volume is superior to prior trough and has the same color. So it’s a dominance situation compared to prior trough.
    By having a glimpse at ExSc thread’s post 157, I learn that S node is the coolest cat on the block. It is a GO that is small PRV but greater than « the reference trough » for its given PRV. It is the sandwich bar. And this is a situation where on one fractal you are holding a profit segment AND within that container there are faster fractals going through their routine of the pattern.
    Wow wow wow…… that last sentence sounds to me extremely powerful.
    Once again. Seriously. Once again.
    This is the situation where you are holding a profit segment AND within the container there are faster fractals going through their own routine. This sounds to me as : for example, you are holding long on the TF. Suddenly, inside this container, a faster fractal begins its own journey towards completion ; you then open a new order opposite to the « holding long » one, to take the full offer of market (let’s call it FOM) WHITHOUT reversing or exiting prior one (holding long one). You just have to orders at the same time and opposite. Can they be both profitable ? Of course they can. Wow. Nice Aha for me now. It feeds a lot my global comprehension.

    So S is when PRV is small but big enough to be above prior trough. Reminds me PP2, PP3 etc… And it sounds like a faster fractal beginning its path towards completion inside a slower one.
    For now what I understand is that at Q you wait for a potential S bar. You wait for lock in AND I DD the lock in reference is the prior trough level. If lock in does not happen, then you cut to X and exit to A where you choose ineluctably between B or C. This is congruent with post 176 in ExSc thread. Moreover, I learn is post 189 that R, S and N refer to three of used nodes when you are making multi point consecutive trades without ever leaving the market.

    I might add, to feed the comprehension and have more infos, that in post 295, we learn that a reversing on a doji can only be done coming from an S. You have to have the momentum of volume as indicated by being above the trough that began the former dominant hold.

    From scratch now : At S, you hold for T for (J or K) at X or U.
    Rephrased : At S, you hold for (choose X or U) for (volume drops below prior, or, Non-Dom any color) at (J or K fails) or (choose N or W)
    = At S, you hold for (choose X or U) for (volume drops below prior, or, Non-Dom any color) at [ (J or K fails) or (choose Doji test or LI for R or S) ].
    I am not able to DD deeper atm, but I can feel the study of the sequences described as possible will be the key.

    This was S node.




    T node

    It’s a choice node and you choose between X and U, so you choose between (J or K has failed) and (you choose between Doji test and LI for R or S).
    I can feel it helps quite a bit to use mathematic equations to solve all this full-of-nodes bag.

    So when at T, you choose either the failure of J/K, or, between doji test and LI for R/S.
    I can see X describes the failure of J or K. At J or K, which both are non-Dom situations, you exit and feedback and be sent to A. So J/K make one exit. What is failure of J/K ? it would be absence of non-Dom, so presence of Dom. So would be presence of Dom. There is something strange here… I feel I have misunderstood something.
    As I know, T node is inside triangulation of Q, R and V. Q is when you choose at open of n+2 or higher bar, between R and S ; R is of of the two choices from Q ; V is a choice node between X and U. Again, X is failure of J/K which, from ymy current LOU, would be presence of Dom. So if J/K failure occurs, R/S apperance occurs. That’s what I DD. (atm I can feel my capacity of entering inside the flow is reduced compared to yesterday..trough of comprehension after yesterdy’s peak…next event in the OOE : peak. Great. Let’s be patient…).
    There is to be nested to understand all this.

    In a nutshell, at T you choose X or U. For X you exit at J or K and go to A ; for U, you either choose doji test, or you have LI occuring for either R/S.

    Once again I see there is something weird. It is said in the MADA doc that J and K both deal with non-Dom volume. X deals with failure or J/K. So it’s failure of non-Dom. So it’s happening of Dom. BUT, I can see X is the exit condition. FCC1 is for taking Dom. I don’t understand here. It will be solved. I can feel I’m in a too-static flow right now, I need dynamism. I expect to fin dit when soon studying the sequences.
    This was T node.



    U node

    There is no MADA point for this node. In terms of nature of the node, you either choose the doji test or you choose the LI occuring for R/S.



    V node

    V is like T in its definition. It makes one choose between X and U. So either you EXIT, or, you choose between doji and LI for R/S.



    W node

    As repeated a few times above, W is when LI occurs either for R or S. And when at W, you hold for LI and EOB at Y or N.



    Y node

    At Y, you feedback to MADA 16 (doji test passes) at Q.



    I can feel the last nodes study has been neglected. That’s the signal of, priorly, the surge of derailment in the comprehension when studying one piece of the flowchart. No worry, let’s take a little break of 30min and I’ll be back with studying sequences in order to be back into dynamic flow.


    To be continued…
     
    #1640     Feb 19, 2020