Making JH' SCT and all his material alive

Discussion in 'Journals' started by WchPl, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. Sprout

    Sprout

    You are doing great, btw, keep up the good work!
     
    #1111     Jun 28, 2019
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  2. WchPl

    WchPl

    Good warnings from you, thank you, hope you did it well yesterday
     
    #1112     Jun 29, 2019
  3. WchPl

    WchPl

    If you wish to specify something precisely so that it will not be confused with anything else, you would say that it is-what is left over after you have excluded or eliminated everything it is not. A mango is not an orange, a peach, an apricot, a canteloupe and so forth. These are non-mangoes. When you exclude all the things that a mango is not, then what you are left with is the opposite of a non-mango, namely a mango itself. This is called the double negative of a mango and every permanent and impermanent phenomenon can be individually specified by its own double negative.

    Effectively, that's a good insight. Thank you very much for pointing this out.
     
    #1113     Jun 29, 2019
  4. WchPl

    WchPl

    This seems clear to me now
     
    #1114     Jun 29, 2019
  5. WchPl

    WchPl

    Struggling with that, thinking about it a lot.


    Here is an illustration of how I understand what you say

    Band killing prior band.png
     
    #1115     Jun 29, 2019
  6. WchPl

    WchPl

    And this contradicts my understanding inside prior post :

    Bar 7 is T2P -> So B-band is still not defining itself, it IS defined. So A-band is not active anymore. So we can only have after that bar, either B's EE, or volume element.
    Bar 8 : you state it's Ab. So A-band EE whereas I understand at this moment A-band is killed.

    Need to work and refine, I'm missing something or you're wrong. Most likely, I'm missing something.
     
    #1116     Jun 29, 2019
  7. WchPl

    WchPl

    snippet.png

    T2P coming into being initiates B-band AND A-band is active on that bar. Clear.
    B-band EE's do not exist until the n+1 bar from T2P = B-band EE's exist from the next bar after T2P.

    Logically, the presence of a T2P initiates B-band and kills A-band.

    So here :

    Band killing prior band.png

    I don't see any possibility nor reason why bar 8 could be any of the A-band EE's.
     
    #1117     Jun 29, 2019
  8. WchPl

    WchPl

    Finally, the only way of understanding what you state here would be to say :

    When B-band is defined and becomes active, it killes A-band IN THE B-BAND ZONE.

    It leads me back to that :

    bands.png

    So, I'd say if Ab is true on bar 8, it could mean : when a given bar begins to be active, it kills the prior ones' activeness ONLY INSIDE THE GIVEN ZONE OF THE NEW APPEARED Band. The non-concerned parts of prior bands' zones by the new band that appeared, would be then remaining active.
     
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    #1118     Jun 29, 2019
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  9. WchPl

    WchPl

    So, for the puzzle of EE and its map, here is a classification of my personal feelings concerning IDing any EE. From those I feel comfortable with, through those I see fuzzyness, to finally those I'm afraid of...lol

    Gonna make them appear in decreasing obviousness order, with chart snippets

    35 EE's from comfortable to hard.png
     
    #1119     Jun 29, 2019
  10. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    Bands are on or off. Active or not active. They continue to exist and are toggled on/off, based on the development and/or completion of the current bar. Once created, bands do not get "killed" until the volume sequence is reset with assignment, or EE, including FS.

    B-band lives INSIDE A-band...
    Maybe a simpler way to think about it is that "active" means it is the farthest progress that has been made in the OOE of bands. In this case B-band. But prior bands and EE's in prior bands are still there and available. Existence of B-band (or any band) means it is now POSSIBLE that an EE associated with that band can occur: there is no MUST occur in the context of this discussion. What happens is that as the trend progresses, the number of EE's available increases. No bands are "killed" until the volume sequence is reset with assignment or EE, includes FS.

    Bar 8 Ab... if the bar can not travel far enough to reach and at least slightly exceed the lower limit of the B-band, then it can not be a B-band thing and must be something else. What can it be?
     
    #1120     Jun 29, 2019