Wrong. I’ve been a proponent of immunity through prior infection. Much like Tony Stark’s comments,(haven’t seen him on the boards for a minute?). That being said, there’s a few of you who have blasted that position with the common tard this, tard that, ad hom attacks. Seheult’s studies point to exactly that, those who’ve recovered from the virus have basically the same protection as those fully vaxxed. Except when it comes to the Delta variant. There, according to the studies you need 2. Either double vax or prior infection and at least one dose. Either combo provides the same basic level of antibody response. One single mRNA by itself provides some protection against the early variants, but basically zero or the same as being unvaccinated with no prior infection against Delta. I don’t recall anyone stating that on these boards.
Nice re-write of history. I've never claimed immunity through infection isn't a thing, and as far as I can tell only GWB has posted against that approach on efficacy grounds. You can go back to my posts on convalescent plasma therapies. There may have been studies on period of immunity or antibody persistence through that approach but I've never really given them much credence or looked into them much because well, I'm vaccinated. Having said all that it's still a moronic approach as this is how you end up w/Delta and other mutations in the 1st place. Which is the main reason I've been opposed to gaining immunity through infection. Your conclusions are also wrong as the study posted by the doc don't even consider unvaccinated w/o infection at all vs delta. The conclusion at best is that having contracted COVID pre-delta gives slightly better immunity than a single shot of a two shot regimen. timestamped: All this shit is moot, as we've known that vaccines are a two dose regimen against Alpha, variant protection being a "hopeful hail mary".
Don't you think this approach should be modified according to the virility and damage created by the pathogen? When it comes to Covid-19, I think waiting for immunity through prior infection is a very bad idea if you have vaccination as an alternative. There are no vaccines available where it has been determined that vaccination is inferior to immunity through infection. In every case, without exception, it has been determined by expert, professional study groups that the benefits of vaccination far outweigh the risks. That's a primary consideration for approval of a vaccine. Exposure risk is one of the considerations in deciding, in each instance, whether to vaccinate or not. And the latter risk can be relative to a population as well as to an individual. It doesn't seem to me to be a good idea to substitute your own judgement for the collective judgement of experts, even though, in the U.S., you are free to do that. However you may not be allowed to do certain things that would put others at risk, if you are not vaccinated, and that makes perfect sense as well.
I’m not implying anyone wait for immunity through prior infection. Im my case I contracted the virus (mild case, not asymptotic ) pre-vaccine. Between that, modified personal interactions and some increased specific vitamin supplements, I feel perfectly safe in my day to day activities. I’ve followed Seheult from the early days of the covid outbreak, even when YouTube censored him. He’s a frontline ER doc in S.Cal. With some excellent discussions on the microbiology of the virus and how it interacts with the body. This video just gave me pause, and something for some others on these boards to investigate.
Zzzzzzzz Seems I read somewhere Israel studies came out, fully dosed mRNA’s were 37-38% effective against Delta? Go ahead and book mark this, 3rd round of boosters coming by years end. You ain’t gonna stop this from spreading. Better therapeutics is the answer for fighting it.
A sensible response. Better get vaccinated as soon as possible. I would suggest the standard two shots a month apart. Even though you were exposed previously.
J&J will be my choice if I have to get vaxxed. Regardless of what everyone wants you to believe, I’m not convinced of the mRNA safety at this point in time.