Witness statements will be key...those telling (yelling) at him to stop (he's unconscious or dead) versus others. Also, experts nearby (if any) that know the choke hold and any other nearby veterans that may have served in the Marines. As a veteran myself in the Army...we're taught 10 - 15 seconds will render a person unconscious after a choke hold is properly secured. Thus, the investigators will look at the timestamp of the videos with "experts" on the choke hold, military experts too during the legal case. They will look at the video and then begin counting the seconds after the chokehold was secured which is what Penny should have been doing considering he does have military training and had classes in chokeholds. Simply, he will be asked by the prosecution a series of questions about his military training, has he ever practiced on friends the same maneuver, and hold long did he take to render them unconscious ? Also, his commanding officers or former commanding officers will be subpoenaed too to talk about his training and character. Next, they will look to see if Penny or any other person that held down Neely on that train had rendered any medical aid once they let go and saw that he was unconscious. This will be key especially if any of those helping Penny had any medical training. From personal experience in Judo (I'm a black belt/use an opponent's Judogi), military experience...training from experts and buddies & I would play a choke-out game and choke each other out along with practicing how to get free of a chokehold. A chokehold beyond 30 seconds, you're trying to murder someone (intentionally) and not trying to minimize a threat. Plus, in my opinion, rendering aid when Neely was unconscious will become a key component of the trial. Outside the above, I will not be following this murder trial. Too personal for me because I've done volunteer work at homeless shelters for teens and adults...knew a few that had mental illness. In addition, I'm ex-military. wrbtrader
incendiary trolling aside, and I'm heavily speculating here w/assumptions, it's sad this young man witnessed the ugliness of someone breaking due to life circumstances and his first instinct, be it from fear or discomfort was to extinguish the ugliness of that human condition. Part of me hopes I have it wrong, that he's not throwing his life away from a sheltered life and/or fantasies of reaffirming his masculinity by being a hero in his own mind. Sadly, even con media is talking about fictions of "preemptive self defense", LOL and his own defense of "aggressive and threatening" behavior, stopping short of saying Neely attacked anyone. And if I have it right, I sure as hell hope Neely gets the fair shake in death that he wasn't fortunate to get in life.
If i recall, Bragg was the one who wanted to prosecute the elderly bodega operator who was cornered, held hostage, and threatened behind the counter by a simp who was being the bully his girlfriend wanted him to be because her EBT card was denied. In that case, Mayor Adams wisely, if not politically, spoke up for the working class bodega operators in the city, and soon the elderly Dominican immigrant was let go. I see this situation as similar. People on the subway are cornered, with no way out. You can run, and let others, who can't run as fast as you, suffer from the hostility, or, you can protect people till the doors open up. "Choked to death" is a dishonest description. The Marine restrained an attacker as best as one can under the circumstances, and probably died for the same reasons as George Floyed, self induced toxic poisoning
You really don't care about fairness. You care about race. The culture you support is an extention of the prison culture. Prison is a hotbed for racism, where gangs are formed for self-protection. But not just protection, for offensive attacks, and protection from the fallout of offensive attacks, many of which are along the lines of race. When you are in a prison gang, you don't judge so much on the unfairness of the offensive attack by one of your members. You protect the member no matter how crazy their in-prison offenses, and especially no matter what brought your gang members to prison in the first place. BLM, and the culture around it (including activists DAs), is all about springing gang members from jail, no matter what they've done, or will do to society, simply because of racist considerations, not least of which is a sense of racial supremacy.
Wow riding Fonzie's surfboard huh. A man loses his life simply by raising his voice and somehow we get to prison cliques.
No it was a serious analysis. The man was a jailbird currently benefiting from one of the many get-out-of-jail-free cards passed out like candy by local DA's since the political environment allowed more activists to seek and gain office via "democracy", with the aid of big money from oligarchs bent on societal upheaval to get their jollies. As a jailbird, the subway insanity bomb is a welcome member of the gang culture that incubates inside the prison system, and extends far out into places like this, a trading forum. Shot callers, on the inside, actually run big grifts on the outside. Politics is big business. Racist agitators like Cuddles serve as pawns for their purposes, without actually even getting paid, like BLM gets paid. There are a lot of unpaid ideological tools like Cuddles helping to shorten jail time, and put money on the books, for those involved in racist cultures inside USA prisons.