MAGAlover in NewZealand goes on killing spree; 49 dead; livestreams murder

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Nigerian ethnic violence between Muslims and Christians - been happening forever.

    The most important take away - Libtards don’t give a fuck unless they can try to associate blame to #OrangeMan and American Conservatives.

    Americans leftists have a next generation brain infestation. Low IQ. Low energy beta males.
     
    #21     Mar 16, 2019
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    says the subservient cuck guzzling Orange man as if his seed was the elixir of life.
     
    #22     Mar 16, 2019
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  3. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Yup. Above post is a perfect example of Low IQ and low T beta male suffering from TDS.
     
    #23     Mar 16, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    only low T betas bitch and moan about low T.
    the wolf doesn't care about the opinion of the sheep

    As a cuckservative, do you even lift? Hell, do you even trade?
     
    #24     Mar 16, 2019
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  5. wjk

    wjk

    If the below article is true, this killer sounds like he has much more in common with the left wingers in this thread than the right wingers. This guy sounds more like a left wing radical than a right wing extremist, IMO.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/worl...d-capitalism-media-call-him-a-trump-supporter

    From the article:

    "...The shooter, an Australian national, has been taken into custody and charged with murder. A manifesto he published online, entitled The Great Replacement: Towards a New Society, has been used by mainstream liberal media to point to President Trump, his supporters, and conservatives in general.

    But a reading of the manifesto itself does not support that view. Headlines and subheadings of multiple articles published online since the tragedy include phrases such as “Trump supporter,” “right-wing,” and “conservative” to describe the shooter...."

    "...But this is not that. This is being spun as an indictment of Trump, Trump supporters, and conservatism. And to support that false narrative, the mainstream liberal media have carefully cherry-picked Tarrant’s manifesto for selected quotes. Carefully avoided are quotes which show that he is not a conservative, not a Trump supporter, not a Christian, and not a capitalist..."

    "...Here, in his own words — quoted directly from various portions of his manifesto — is what he had to say (much of his manifesto is in question and answer form):

    Why did you carry out the attack?

    … To create an atmosphere of fear and change in which drastic, powerful and revolutionary action can occur….


    Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide within the United states. This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

    Why did you choose to use firearms?

    I could have chosen any weapons or means. A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source. A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield. Gas, fire, vehicular attacks, plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.

    I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.”

    The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

    With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.

    This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.

    Were/are you a conservative?

    No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it.


    Were/are you a christian?

    That is complicated.

    When I know, I will tell you.

    Were/are you a fascist?

    Yes. For once, the person that will be called a fascist, is an actual fascist. I am sure the journalists will love that.

    I mostly agree with Sir Oswald Mosley’s views and consider myself an Eco-fascist by nature.

    The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.


    Were/are you “right wing”?

    Depending on the definition, sure.

    Were/are you “left wing”?

    Depending on the definition, sure.

    Were/are you a socialist?

    Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? It depends on who those workers are, their intents, who currently owns the means of production, their intents and who currently owns the state, and its intents.


    Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?

    As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.

    Why focus on immigration and birth rates when climate change is such a huge issue?

    Because they are the same issue, the environment is being destroyed by over population, we Europeans are one of the groups that are not over populating the world. The invaders are the ones over populating the world. Kill the invaders, kill the overpopulation and by doing so save the environment.

    Why do you blame immigrants and not the capitalists?

    I blame both, and plan to deal with both.

    Did you always hold these views?

    No, when I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a

    libertarian before coming to be an eco-fascist.


    Are you a Fed/shill/mossad agent/false flag/patsy/infiltrator/antifa/glow in the dark etc?

    No, but the next person to attack could be, so a healthy scepticism is a good thing.

    Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights from Whites in the United states?

    Yes, that is the plan all along, you said you would fight to protect your rights and the constitution, well soon will come the time.

    So, the shooter clearly states that he is not a conservative (in fact, he addresses conservatives in a 394-word screed in the middle of his manifesto, ending it with, “Conservatism is dead. Thank god. Now let us bury it and move on to something of worth....”


    "...
    He states that he is an “Eco-fascist” who planned and carried out his attack — in part — to “save the environment.” He states that he places the “blame” on capitalists, whom he describes elsewhere in his manifesto as “your capitalist owners” who keep the rest of the world in the dark to “ensure none of us get grand ideas of taking the unearned wealth” they have accumulated.

    He makes it plain that he does not support President Trump (whom he mentions one time in his entire 2,644 word manifesto) as anything other than a “symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose...”
     
    #25     Mar 16, 2019
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer


    So your idea of providing context to the manifesto is to split up sentences and peddle a lengthy commentary of your own while ignoring every piece of contrary evidence including his praise for Trump and Candace Owens? Why would a lefty go on a rampage killing Muslims now? You guys constantly accuse the left of being Muslim appeasers with their immigration policies. Basically nothing is ever your fault, if a MAGAtard goes on a killing rampage, it must be a conspiracy or he is just hiding his true intentions by being openly a MAGA lover.

    Well done, MAGA lover, now don't go shooting or something.
     
    #26     Mar 16, 2019
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  7. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Lift, trade, win, procreate, dominate, earn, travel...probably all better, bigger and more often than you.
    Probably your boyfriend takes care of all your expenses. Which is why you are a bottom who hates guns and loves Che.
     
    #27     Mar 16, 2019
  8. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    How do you and ExGroper and Phony Snark decide who takes which position in the spitroast?
     
    #28     Mar 16, 2019
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    weak trolling is weak. Quit projecting your homoerotic fantasies son. You're following Trump too hard.
     
    #29     Mar 16, 2019
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  10. wjk

    wjk

    What are you rambling about? The items in this article are the pieces of contrary evidence being left out by the MSM... The items I highlighted in red from the manifesto are not right wing views IMO, which was the article's point. Did you actually read the Q and A from the article? Those are his questions to himself and his answers according to the article. At least you admit there are contrary ideas going on with this guy. That means you understand he has left wing ideas mixed in.

    You have lumped me in a group of "you guys" accusing the left of being a Muslim appeaser. Please find a quote of mine which validates that statement. The only thing I would accuse certain lefties of is being close minded, intolerant, self important control freaks who aren't as intelligent as they brag to be. Maybe you fall into that category. Maybe not. My view of Islam and other religion is the same as my view of race. There is good and bad.

    Regarding your comment regarding fault: It's not my fault, or for that matter, your fault that this guy killed innocents. It's his own fucking fault. You didn't do it, I didn't do it. He did it. It's on him. Do you understand that concept? Accountability?

    Lastly, I didn't state my opinion of Trump one way or the other. That is your assumption. My only comment was in the first two sentences. I didn't mention Trump, the manifesto did...once. Everything below my comment and the article link is from the article. Everything in your response regarding me is assumption. I've never posted anything in this forum about Trump or any opinion I might have of him.

    I'll bet it bothers the shit out of you that this self proclaimed white supremacist has left wing views. Don't worry, though. CNN and the others won't let it get out.
     
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    #30     Mar 16, 2019