MAGA will not survive

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Aug 30, 2024.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, it is true that deportation is silly. I will note that a number of MAGA U.S. citizens have voluntarily deported themselves to Russia after claiming how great life would be there. I will note that it did not go well for them.

    As Trump loudly pushes deportation to rile up his base. The reality is that we need immigration. The majority of immigrants from Mexico, Central America, and Venezuela are not criminals but simply hard workers seeking economic opportunity for themselves and their families. We need people to do construction, yard work, farm work, health aides and a large number of other job roles. The harsh reality is the demographics of the U.S. will need immigration to sustain our economy and retirement systems. Sixty years down the road will be probably be paying people from these countries to relocate the U.S.
     
    #11     Aug 30, 2024
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  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Trump vs Kamala reminds me of monsters inc.

    Laughter created 10x the energy of screams.
     
    #12     Aug 30, 2024
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  3. notagain

    notagain

    Dems want to bankrupt the country, so their sponsors can buy it cheap.
    Dems are doing to the country what looters do.
     
    #13     Aug 30, 2024
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    'Something has gone terribly wrong' with Trump's 2024 campaign: conservative economist
    https://www.rawstory.com/oren-cass-trump/

    Former President Donald Trump's campaign has been stripped of the key thing that actually attracted some moderate voters to it in the first place, conservative economist Oren Cass wrote in a thread on X Friday afternoon.

    The big problem for him, he wrote, is that once upon a time, Trump had at least some degree of ability to reach out to workers on economic issues — but now, he's just going through the motions and only engaging with such policy in the most superficial way possible.

    "No one ever accused Donald Trump of excessive message discipline. And still... something has gone terribly wrong in his campaign," wrote Cass. "As I write in Understanding America this week, it's best understood as the gulf between 'Make America Great Again' and 'MAGA.'"

    "People forget, but in 2016 Trump focused intensively on the economic problems of working Americans," wrote Cass — specifically talking about the decline of manufacturing and renegotiating "unfair trade deals." Even socialist outfits like Jacobin have pointed out that in the past, "Trump used pro-worker rhetoric nearly three times as often as he brought up controversial social issues."

    And this is how, paradoxically, many voters came to see a billionaire real estate tycoon with a long history of working with the mob and cheating his workers was able to paint himself, with a straight face, as a candidate of the working class.

    Now, though, he just can't do that, wrote Cass, because he's taken that campaign messaging and commercialized it to the point of cynicism.

    "'Make America Great Again' managed in four words to assert that America had been great, that it no longer was, and that he would do something about it. But that cry has devolved into the personal brand of 'MAGA,' and these are not the same thing at all," wrote Cass. "A coterie of Old Right consultants and donors who wanted nothing to do with Trump in 2016 — leaving him to his much better instincts — has taken the reins and seems determined to steer the campaign into a ditch," and now he's stuck doing "crass promotion of niche issues like cryptocurrency, and pandering to the donor class on tax cuts and temporary labor."

    This doesn't sell like the old Trump did, Cass argued — and it's why he's just not landing like he used to.
     
    #14     Aug 30, 2024
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  5. Mercor

    Mercor

    MAGA is for "normies"
     
    #15     Aug 30, 2024
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


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    #16     Aug 30, 2024
  7. Sounds like something radical leftist Marxist's would do alright.
     
    #17     Sep 4, 2024
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #18     Sep 8, 2024
  9. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    it's a shame for "gop" that exactly this did NOT happen 4 years ago.

    but it is an even much bigger shame that he became their nominee 8 years ago.
     
    #19     Sep 8, 2024
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  10. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    MAGA will evolve after Trump......There are still over 5 million GWOT vets with scores left to settle.

    Connor McGregor to launch a bid in Ireland on a similar type of Nationalist and Populist platform.

     
    #20     Sep 8, 2024