MAGA: Coronavirus Spreads Into the Red States

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Jul 1, 2020.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen


    I like others have reported had some virus just after Christmas which was definately not the flu and if it was not covid-19 it was a damn close cousin symptom wise. Fever to 104F that kept recurring, intense muscle aches, coughing to the point a little blood showed and even a day of no smell.

    The problem with jumping to the conclusion it was covid-19 is I volunteer in a hospice and I have been able to canvas a number of doctors, two were family docs and three geriatric specialists however none were aware of any odd virus. I was even tested for TB because of the blood, negative and there was no spike in mortality for elderly.

    Add to this when I was ill I had rented a house in a hot area nearby and had lots of family and friends over for several days, 20 beds. Other than my father in law who I believe passed it to me in the car driving there, nobody got ill. The incubation period was also short, only three days.

    My cousin in England said he had similar after the first week of December. He said the same it was not just a flu.

    So there was a very covid like virus about but.. It was not especially contagious. I am happy to believe it was coronavirus, there are tons of Chinese road construction workers about, just how was it potent enough of make me ill for nine days, cough blood and yet not get noticed by doctors here in Medellin?

    Others here on ET but living in the US also reported a weird Christmas 'flu' more reminiscent of covid-19.

    Its a puzzle. Maybe it was just something else, or a covid cousin just that is also fraught with improbability.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2020
    #21     Jul 7, 2020
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  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    It's now believed that 15 percent of the population has T cell immunity. We are much closer to herd immunity than folks think but well behind Sweden. Also, it's might be that CCP virus is less contagious than people like GWB believe. We don't know yet.
     
    #22     Jul 7, 2020
  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    15 percent of some populations, maybe, unconfirmed and certainly not evenly spread.

    But hope or guess is not much of anything for policy makers to go on and specific T cells are very hard to test for. Its important to also consider this is a tough bat host evolved virus, its a large RNA virus and while these should attenuate we can also expect the more to get it the greater the chance of a variant that is properly dangerous. We could be back to near square one through re-infections in four to six months.

    I have a feeling this is going to be a headache for a long time. My only glimmer is the Oxford vaccine which might jump the shark given its new and more broadly covering design.
     
    #24     Jul 8, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Study after Study after Study is showing COVID-19 antibodies are present only for a few weeks in people after they recover. "Natural Herd Immunity" is a myth.

    Coronavirus herd immunity may be 'unachievable' after study suggests antibodies disappear after weeks in some people
    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-antibodies-study-herd-immunity-unachievable-spain-2020-7
    • A major new study in one of Europe's worst affected countries for the coronavirus finds no evidence of widespread immunity to the virus developing.
    • Just 5% of Spaniards were detected to have antibodies to the virus.
    • Fourteen percent of people who previously tested positive for antibodies tested negative just weeks later.
    • The study suggests people who experience mild symptoms do not have long-lasting protection.
    • "Immunity can be incomplete, it can be transitory, it can last for just a short time and then disappear," Raquel Yotti, the director of Spain's Carlos III Health Institute, said.
    • Another scientist involved said: "In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable."
    (More at above url)
     
    #25     Jul 8, 2020
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    David Leonhardt: “There is no country in the world where confirmed coronavirus cases are growing as rapidly as they are in Arizona, Florida or South Carolina. The Sun Belt has become the global virus capital.”

    “The only countries with outbreaks as severe as those across the Sunbelt are Bahrain, Oman and Qatar — three Middle Eastern countries with large numbers of low-wage migrant workers who are not citizens. These workers often live in cramped quarters, with subpar social services, and many have contracted the virus.”
     
    #26     Jul 8, 2020
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    BS
     
    #27     Jul 8, 2020
  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    The bold color font is very convincing scientific counter argument.
     
    #28     Jul 8, 2020
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Why would I get into a "debate" with an idiot?
     
    #29     Jul 8, 2020
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Is that the reason you stopped talking with yourself and repeat propaganda by a lifelong scammer and adulterer?
     
    #30     Jul 8, 2020