You are doing the smearing based on supposition. I am reminding people of facts. The fact is we shot down a commercial airliner full of civilians that was on a routine commercial flight. The situation was basically identical to the Malaysian Airlines shootdown, except we don't know who shot that plane down. You need to calm down a little.
it is certain that the shooting down of the Malaysian airlines plane was unintended- the idiots mistook it for a warplane. note that more careful.airlines had rerouted to avoid flying over Ukraine at that time due to the number of planes ( warplanrs) been dropped. Malaysian air decided to risk it as they wanted to save petrol and have a slightly faster flying time.
Flying over a warzone was utterly reckless. The Dutch embassy in Moscow had advised the KLM, a partner of Malaysian Airways, not to fly over the Ukraine as the rebels had downed several war planes in the months before that and it was known they had the availability of missiles capable of hitting planes at >10km altitude. I doubt an American airline could get away with such negligence.
Because Trump says he's cool. Trumpers want to sit with the cool kids so if the head jock says new guy is cool they must abide. Why do you think the right is now all about protectionism, market intervention via tweets, and libel law reform?
Not even close to the same thing. The idea that you compare the United States to Putin's Russia is an insult of the highest order. Whats this reluctance to say anything negative about Putin. I just don't get it. Whats this big fear of Putin? The guy should be held responsible. I am looking at your track record and your support big government and central planners, you are defending America's foe, and you are applying moral relativism saying that the terroristic behavior of other state actors are not that bad because the US did things just as bad. These are the kind of things Obama does.
Oh no, does that mean I am not a real conservative? Not a real conservative like that idiot Little Marco and Warmonger McCain? There's nothing conservative about open borders, trading away our sovereignty and getting our troops killed in pointless wars. Putin wrapped things up in Syria in a few months. We are still in Afghanistan 14 years later and no one can even begin to explain why. I see no reason Russia should be our "foe." They aren't trying to flood us with immigrants or poison us with muslim fanaticism. Nor are they taking all our jobs. We meddled in their elections, we staged a coup to get rid of Putin's guy in Ukraine, we put crippling sanctions on them so Obama could look tough. If you act in a hostile way enough times, people will respond in kind.
Yes, Putin is a tyrant. He's a murderer. He also the enemy of our enemy - The Globalists. The Globalists are a much bigger Enemy then Putin is. Therein lies the source of our disagreement.
Way to nail it, Achilles. Putin is the leader of what can be called the emerging ethno-nationalist bloc. Either it means something to be Russian, or French or British or American or it doesn't. If it does, you have to defend it. If you don't, you will surely lose it. Much of our recent political and cultural history has been an all-out effort to convince us it doesn't matter. Part of it was understandable, as the world had seen two devastating world wars that were blamed on rampant nationalism. Most of the indoctrination recently however has been a crass attempt to stack the political deck by bringing in vast numbers of poor immigrants who would be reliable democrat voters. Guess what, they don't become americans simply by moving here or even becoming citizens. Some do but the majority do not. Even more frightening, we are seeing many examples that while the parents may try to assimilate, their offspring long for their lost culture and try to bring it here, often with terrible results. Somehow a large percent of the country has been convinced that it is somehow shameful to be proud of our own culture and ethnicity. At the same time you are horrible if you don't elevate backwards alien cultures to moral equivalency with your own.
What the fuck is all this globalist crap you bring up? Right we need some asshole calling us telling us when and were to do business. How did the isolationism of the 20s and 30s turn out? Clinton tried to kiss up to Putin. How did that turn out? Bush tried to kiss up to Putin. How did that turn out? Obama tried to kiss up to Putin. How did that turn out? Trump and his pompom boys are kissing up to Putin, I guess some people are slow learners. You folks have really painted yourselves into a corner, haven't you?