m22au's list of companies to short if shorting wasn't deemed evil

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by m22au, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. Cutten

    Cutten

    Nice list - collectively they are down about 30% on *average* today. Shame the puts are so illiquid.
     
    #11     Sep 29, 2008
  2. m22au

    m22au

    NCC putting itself up for sale.

    Unless some stupid bank like BAC wants to pay a ridiculous premium, I would think that NCC might be taken over by the FDIC by Friday evening.

    If you have uninsured deposits at NCC, you should be worried that the bank is looking for a buyer
     
    #12     Oct 9, 2008
  3. Daal

    Daal

    apparenly shorting is back
     
    #13     Oct 9, 2008
  4. m22au

    m22au

    REITs are a mixed bag, but if banks aren't willing to lend, then they are toast - see GGP and CBL as an example.

    GS is the strongest investment bank, however they don't have a banking deposit base (like JPM and BAC), so if MS goes, then people will think that GS is next.

    LYG is stronger than HBOS and RBS, but if it weren't for recent UK government guarantees then I'd still be watching it like a hawk. HSBC looks like the only big UK bank without major problems.

     
    #14     Oct 10, 2008
  5. m22au

    m22au

    some random thoughts:

    ES +7.7% but XLF +2% only.

    The market knows that the financials will be diluted by capital injections, be it from private investors or from the government.

    Some standouts:

    GE -1.5%
    AIB -10%
    IRE -7%

    RF -7%, down over 20% from intraday peak. Possible high short interest already in this company.

    KEY and FITB well off earlier highs

    STI -6%
    ZION -7%

    MI -2%
    CMA -2%
    HBAN -2%

    SOV -1% and might be Spanish very soon

    CIT -3%

    FBC -8%

    CORS -4%
    DSL -14%
     
    #15     Oct 13, 2008
  6. m22au

    m22au

    The equity injections into the bigger banks should help, however
    (1) they may not be enough if/when asset prices continue to decline and
    (2) they can't force the banks to lend [there was a Bloomberg article about this today]
    (3) they can't force individuals / corporations to borrow.

    Some stocks that I'm watching for short opportunities:

    Boo hoo I don't want to be downgraded or else I'll have to raise a huge amount of capital:
    ABK

    Poor quality banks:
    NCC, AIB, IRE,

    Autos and silly SIRI:
    GM, F, SIRI

    Companies with dodgy assets:
    (yes they might have received equity recently but they may need more)
    MS, GS, C, RBS, LYG/HBOS, BCS

    Poor quality companies that need access to wholesale funding:
    CIT, SFI

    REITs may find it hard to refinance debt
    GGP, CBL, PLD, AMB, NCT, CMO, MFA, KFN, AHT, NLY

    Regional banks:
    KEY, ZION, RF, FITB, FHN, CNB, CRBC,

    HBAN, STI, CMA, MI, FBC

    Insurers:
    PRU, MET, HIG, XL

    Some more financials that need access to short-term funding:
    UBS, CS, DB

    Some 'trust banks' that need people to trust money market funds after the Reserve Fund debacle:
    STT, BK, LM, NTRS

    Some smaller stuff:
    CORS, DSL, FED, BKUNA, VNBC

    I am watching but not as bearish about:
    ETFC, MBI, MTG
     
    #16     Oct 15, 2008
  7. m22au

    m22au

    some short ideas for 2009, and some examples of how to play the ideas:

    GM, GM and GM

    other autos and auto related, especially F

    insurers who rely upon positive returns from stocks:
    HIG, LNC, GNW

    retail
    M, TLB

    homebuilders:
    HOV, BZH

    monoline insurers
    ABK, MBI, XL, MTG, PMI, RDN

    REITs
    GGP, PLD, DDR

    have been bailed out but still could have some downside:
    FRE, FNM, AIG, C

    credit cards
    AXP, DFS, COF (and BAC, WFC, JPM)

    various stocks that might be burning cash and/or need to refinance debt:
    S, MOT, AMD, MU

    casinos
    LVS

    drybulk shippers
    DRYS
     
    #17     Dec 31, 2008
  8. m22au

    m22au

  9. m22au: like your bear market list of stocks that still suck.

    I wonder if anything will save GM and F. If they file bankruptcy will it affect all the huge shorts?

    GM seems like free money here... almost too good to be true for shorting. Which makes me wonder if it's too good to be true for short selling.
     
    #19     Jan 1, 2009
  10. m22au

    m22au

    #20     Jan 19, 2009