Lying to Brokers to open accounts

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by StockApprentice, Dec 11, 2001.

  1. SR-NASD-00-03

    The NASD, through its wholly owned subsidiary, NASD Regulation, Inc., is filing with the SEC a proposed rule change to amend NASD Rule 2520 to impose overall more stringent margin requirements for day-trading customers. The proposed rule change would:


    (1) Revise the definition of "pattern day trader" to include any customer who (a) the firm knows or has a reasonable basis to believe will engage in pattern day trading, or (b) day trades four or more times in five business days, unless his or her day-trading activities do not exceed 6% of his or her total trading activity for that time period;
     
    #21     Dec 12, 2001
  2. Just trying to get my question answered
     
    #22     Dec 12, 2001
  3. Apprentice

    I found the above in about 30 seconds on Google.
     
    #23     Dec 12, 2001
  4. You are considered a PDT if you make 4 or more executions within any 'rolling' 5 day period

    Day trades, not executions. The purchase and sale (in any order and any number of shares) of the same stock on the same day.

    voodoo
     
    #24     Dec 12, 2001
  5. "Day trades, not executions. The purchase and sale (in any order and any number of shares) of the same stock on the same day."

    Correct Voodoo, I did mean day trades. :)
     
    #25     Dec 12, 2001
  6. I stand corrected

    I had apparently misread the rule. Thanks for the correction guys.
     
    #26     Dec 13, 2001
  7. Pattern Day Trader.

    Always thought it had the taint of something tawdry, like Pattern Sex Offender, or Pattern Adulterer.


    OTOH maybe it does :eek: :p
     
    #27     Dec 16, 2001
  8. This is part of the new NASD rule:

    Pattern day traders who fall below $25,000 will be permitted to execute transactions only on a cash available basis for 90 days or until the account goes back upto $25,000.

    This mean if you are a Pattern day traders and do not have $25,000 you can day trade all day with just your cash available.

    I know this for a fact and I because day trade all day with just $20,000.

    Tick
     
    #28     Dec 18, 2001
  9. BSAM

    BSAM

    TickRader:

    Who's your broker?

    BSAM
     
    #29     Dec 19, 2001
  10. I was patterned a while back by Mr. Stock and am hopelessly mired in mud trying to open an IB account for the past three months, so I do some IRA "rebalancing". I offended, apparently, in a Fidelity SEP/IRA and received a letter demanding money (which you can't send if you already did this year) or threatening a 90 day suspension. I didn't know PDT rules apply to IRAs and I notice Datek hasn't yelled at me.

    I think I'm going to fight Fidelity on this one.

    Geo.
     
    #30     Jan 18, 2002