Lupus patients are not getting sick from CCP virus

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buy1Sell2, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. ids

    ids

    Hydroxychloroquine is the ‘most effective therapy’ for coronavirus treatment: A global survey of over 6,000 doctors shows

    A global survey of more than 6,000 doctors conducted found that malarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment against the deadly coronavirus (COVID-19).

    The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, found that 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options..

    Early this week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency use authorization of anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine for treatment of coronavirus patients. Previously available for “off-label” use, the FDA now gives hospitals and doctors emergency permission to use the anti-malarial drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat coronavirus patients.

    The survey also found that the three most commonly prescribed treatments are 56% analgesics, 41% Azithromycin, and 33% Hydroxychloroquine.

    Below is a summary of the findings.

    • Hydroxychloroquine usage amongst COVID-19 treaters is 72% in Spain, 49% in Italy, 41% in Brazil, 39% in Mexico, 28% in France, 23% in US, 17% in Germany, 16% in Canada, 13% in UK and 7% in Japan.
    • Hydroxychloroquine was overall chosen as the most effective therapy from a list of 15 options (37% of COVID-19 treaters).
    • 75% in Spain, 53% Italy, 44% in China, 43% in Brazil, 29% in France, 23% in US and 13% in UK.
    • The two most common treatment regimens for Hydroxychloroquine were: (38%) 400mg twice daily on day one; 400 mg daily for 5 days. (26%) 400mg twice daily on day one; 200mg twice daily for 4 days.
    • Outside the US, Hydroxychloroquine was equally used for diagnosed patients with mild to severe symptoms whereas in the US it was most commonly used for high risk diagnosed patients.
    • Globally, 19% of physicians prescribed or have seen Hydroxychloroquine prophylactically used for high risk patients, and 8% for low risk patients.
    • Second global outbreak is anticipated by 83% of global physicians, 90% of US physicians but only 50% of Chinese physicians.
    • In the US, 63% of physicians recommend restrictions be lifted six or more weeks from now and 66% believe the peak is at least 3-4 weeks away.
    • Average Time for COVID-19 Test:
      • On average tests in the US take 4-5 days, and in 10% of cases the wait is more than 7 days.
      • 14% of US physicians and over 50% in all of Europe and Japan report getting test results in 24 hours; in China 73% of doctors get tests back in 24 hours, while 8% get tests back within the hour.
    • Prioritizing Patient Treatment in Case of Ventilator Shortage:
      • In all countries except China, the top criteria for deciding who should receive a ventilator first was patients with the highest chance of recovery (47%) followed by those most ill and at highest risk of death (21%), then first responders (15%).
      • In China the priorities were reversed as the most ill and highest risk of death received ventilators.
      • First responders were more important in the US.
      • France, Japan, and Italy prioritized age.
      • Brazil and Russia prioritized higher risk patients.
     
    #131     Apr 14, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Once again - let's outline the FACTS - Over 6000 doctors did NOT say "hydroxychloroquine is the ‘most effective therapy’ for coronavirus treatment.

    Nor did 6000 doctors state they are having "good results saving seriously ill Corona Virus from sure death" from using hydroxychloroquine.

    Let's look at the actual survey results -

    This is what the doctors in the study actually said -- In the largest survey of 6200 doctors only 37% of doctors said they would consider hydroxychloroquine effective with the second place answer being "Nothing" with 32%. Not very overwhelming support. See page with Question 13 results. https://public-cdn.sermo.com/covid1...ve-i-sermo-covid-19-global-analysis-final.pdf

    To be fair this report is from March 25th to 27th. More recent questions and results of doctors can be found at - https://app.sermo.com/covid19-barometer?utm_campaign=wwwsermo_covid19

    People should stop re-posting the biased article below which deliberately twists the results of the survey for their own political purposes. Go to the direct source and read the Sermo survey itself in full. Also read the follow-up surveys and data.


     
    #132     Apr 14, 2020
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  3. jem

    jem

    Now you are qualifying your statements with seriously ill.
    Seriously ill is worthy of consideration... but if hydroxy is working for the non seriously ill we should be following a prudent program and reopening immediately (in most areas) while protecting at risk demos.

     
    #133     Apr 14, 2020
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The use of hydroxychloroquine based therapy as an experimental treatment for COVID-19 should be driven by medical experts (doctors)- not by politicans and media pundits hyping it.

    It is good to see hydroxychloroquine is being widely used experimentally under medical guidance on COVID-19 patients. It is also good that proper medical studies are being performed on its effectiveness. However it should not be promoted as a "cure" for COVID-19 without medical evidence from studies. There is nearly no evidence that providing hydroxychloroquine to non-seriously ill patients will in any way eliminate community spread or allow "re-opening" immediately.

    It should be noted that results from using Remdesivir, Interferon, and Plasma (from recovered patients) treatments for COVID-19 appear to be far more promising - but only time will tell after proper studies of all the possible treatments.
     
    #134     Apr 14, 2020
  5. jem

    jem

    who the fuck are you to be lecturing others as if... they are going around saying take this drug no matter what your doctor advises.

    you are lecturing against a bogey man who does not exist... why?

     
    #135     Apr 14, 2020
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Have you noticed there has been a run on hydroxychloroquine in the U.S. from "non-COVID infected people" to the point that Lupus patients cannot get their prescriptions. This political hyping of hydroxychloroquine - thereby causing a run on the drug is potentially killing Lupus patients and others who need the drug.

    The political claims that using hydroxychloroquine will allow the "re-opening" of America by eliminating community spread is part of the problem. I will note that you just echoed these incorrect claims.
     
    #136     Apr 14, 2020
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    FALSE
     
    #137     Apr 14, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Lupus patients taking hydroxychloroquine can't find it due to COVID-19 pandemic
    https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/lu...roquine-cant-find-it-due-to-covid-19-pandemic

    Amid Hydroxychloroquine Hopes, Lupus Patients Face Shortages
    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/927307

    Lupus Patients Can’t Get Crucial Medication After President Trump Pushes Unproven Coronavirus Treatment
    Trump’s unproven claim that hydroxychloroquine could be used to treat COVID-19 has led to hoarding, putting Lupus patients and others at even greater risk. As of Saturday afternoon, Anna Valdez had 27 pills left. That number is now down to 25.
    https://www.propublica.org/article/...t-trump-pushes-unproven-coronavirus-treatment


    You can find a 515,000 results on Google about Lupus patients not being able to find hydroxychloroquine. The results above are the first three.
     
    #138     Apr 14, 2020
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    FALSE
     
    #139     Apr 14, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You live in quite a fantasy world. Guess you cannot find any medical or media evidence to support your "false" claims.
     
    #140     Apr 14, 2020