"Lucias, you think they would let a complete stranger over the internet lose 30k to 150k of their money in return for 150 to 300 bucks? What? LOL. Lucias, I will be shocked if there is one more person that comes forward and admits that. That is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard in the 10 years I have been on this site. Honestly, I'm beside myself here." Mav, it is not what I think. It is what is written on their site. As well, this happens all the time. There are many signal provider sites where investors/traders pay a monthly fee and allow automated systems (and traders) trade their accounts with no intervention. I had an automated trader taking my trades live and was routinely trading 5-6 lots. I think my biggest winner was a bit over $5,000 in this time. So, I'm sure that was a happy morning for him. Just a few sites are C2, Stryker Securities, then there are managed accounts, etc. While there is no hard rule on this, most aggressive investors are willing to risk about up to about 30% for aggressive returns... Of course the level varies but I don't know anyone who'd turn a system on and pull the plug after just 1k in losses. Admins, if you're going to allow bagger to stalk, harras, and troll me then I'm going to leave again. Mav: Do you never read my posts to you? I've shared my blog with you dozens of time. Why do you act surprised? Am I just dealing with shills here? I see this is a shill site. I'm done here. Mav, I shared my blog with you months ago and then you come and try to act like you never seen my blog. I'm done here. There aren't any other forums where I'm disrespected like here.
Its too bad there isn't much money in selling bullshit because if there was Lucias wouldn't even be needing to read this thread right now. He'd be happily trading his 8 figure account while meditating on his amazingness.
The cost for the system is available for a one time, non-refundable, introductory purchase price of $3,195 (for individuals only). All purchasers will be required to sign an NDA as part of the license terms agreeing not to disclose the rules of the systems and not to broadcast any trades. If you are a hedge fund, proprietary firm, CTA, signal provider, corporation, or professional then contact me, and I'm sure we can work out something that is equitable. If you are interested in purchasing this system then contact me at predictor@themarketpredictor.com. http://themarketpredictor.com/predictor-day-system-released.aspx Lucias, where you trying to sell me this shit over e-mail?
Lol I guess you missed the disagreements me and lucias had a while back. Fortunately I saved some of it on my computer before the mods shut it down. Here are some highlights from his journal. This will document my path to success. As I feel I am the best in the world, I will be granted considerable freedom to make mistake but will be expected to produce to my highest performance. So, I will be starting at NADEX with a 3k account. I will be testing the concept of extreme leverage in an attempt to double or triple my account. Money means a lot to me. However, serving my abilities is more important and the only way to serve is to trade because the world is a fool. I almost always call the exact top and bottom ... I try to instill a little bit of controlled recklessness into my trading because I'm highly trained and know that I will make the best decision most of the time. I trade the S&P 500 index. I'm a specialist in it. I typically call entire market direction so it works well. One other thing, I'm trying to return 3x or 4x my initial capital. I'm a specialist in the S&P 500. I win all the time. I always win. But, that is what it takes to do what I do. I have to win all the time. So, part of me never feels comfortable because being great is being great every single day. It is winning every day. It is not about you did the past. I win everyday, and I'm expected to win everyday. Fortunately for me, I am one of the best at predicting those 1 to 3 day moves. I don't have time to trade on a smaller wavelength, at any rate. I've made about $150 the last 2 days trading the binaries with small position. However, as fate would have it, it called for me to placing a big bet. I'm risking $405 with a potential payout of $2045. I'm honestly not very confident. But, I'm highly trained and just do what I'm trained to do. At least one good thing is if I lose I'll only lose $150 of my base capital this week. So, that's a plus. But, traded well and I got out of some bad positions well. I did serve. And, I'm one of the best. I need to increase my focus. I wanted to instill a sense of recklessness into my work. I think that is important. It is a controlled recklessness. I imagine I'm trading at a large bank with a large capital base. I'm trying to win. But, I'm really not and so that has be to measured with balance. A lot of people lose money and then they trade themselves into a ditch they can't get out. That's not the type of recklessness that I want to develop. The recklessness I want to develop is a skilled recklessness. A lot of what I do is about tension.. it is about the dynamics between forces. It is about listening to those dynamics. Available Capital: $4,131.80 I feel pretty good about that. Available Capital: $ 3791 I'm happy that I had a bit of struggle first starting because I rarely lose and frankly because I always win then I wonder how will I handle losing? I can make more money trading then I can selling calls or ebooks or whatever else. Available Capital: $5,380 Available Capital: $4,842 I've had a lot going on in my life outside of trading. My losing streak is enough to capture my attention but not enough to be clearly abnormal. Available Capital: $4,581 I'm on a bit of a losing streak. I think a lot of my losses can be attributed to reversal days and trend day failures. Available Capital: $4,342 Very rough losing streak.. Available Capital: $4,280.38 Brutal... I was right on the move but decided to use a limit order instead of market. I always use market order but with 5 losses in a row then I decided to need to pick my spots better. I never got filled until the rebound and took a small loss. I don't want to become over confident. Keep an eye on risk and also on adding some additional strategies. I'm already an expert on the ES but need new strategies. I have been in profit almost the entire length of this thread, I had around $250 of profits left over after my down turn. I made another $1000+ profits this past week or so. Net Profit P&L:+$491 P&L: +$332 Progress report: It's been approximately 4 months since I started this journal. My model account has been approximately $3,000. Due to they moved my account and non market expenses, I actually have less in the account. What it is, what it is At peak, I was up $1500 net Currently, I'm up $430 P&L: +$360 Poor trading. maybe need to end this journal if its hurting my performance The real problem is I used to the master of the market. Now, I struggle...The deal was that I'd never mention it. Now, I spend more energy thinking about why I'm not recognized.. why I don't have more followers.. etc...Where are the crowds? Where are the cheering crowds when I'm winning? Being in a state of Flow with a connection to the Source is most important to me. That is really what I want. Trading for me has always been about 2 ideas. One is developing a connection to the Source, the source of creativity and energy. The other was about self improvement through technology, i.e Cyborganism. I need to get back to these central tenants. Coach: I want to get yourself physically strong. And, something else. you need a mental edge. Something to brighten your a mind. I have something for you. Me: You're not a telemarketing vitamin seller? Coach: No, I'm going to put you back on a powerful nootropic. It's called Creatine. It will brighten your memory. just a bit. Me: Does that mean brighten good and darken the bad? Coach: Yes, we're going just going to raise the intensity a bit of your mind. That means more good and more bad. But, you need it. You need energy and it will help with the getting strong. Coach: Tell me more about this idea of service that you have. What exactly is the source? Me: Of course, I can't share my most proprietary knowledge in public. Who knows what the source is? It is energy. It could be dopamine. It was once called nature. And then there are more esoteric ideas. It is power but has limitations. Coach: Right and how do you develop that connection to it? Me: Getting into flow is a big part of that. Flow is the interaction with the source. It is a good question how to get the connection to it. I find that keeping an open mind helps. Music helps. It helps to be selfless. It is a wonderful feeling. Flow is all about making connections. It is making connections from A to B to C to D and all at the same time. One other thing because the mind is always processing data, one has to reduce the noise to get too it. We process everything that we come into contact with, so we must be careful to restrict what gets processed. I'm already producing significant returns: at my peak I was 150% on actual capital in account and 50% on the model account. I'm still up nearly 30% on the capital in the account and the year is not over. I want talk about some of the factors that have made me successful. And, two of the biggest factors would be: Self honesty Learning from my mistakes or self correction Crushed.. went from a huge winning day to what will be a large losing day. It should have been a small losing day at worst. I may have to take a break after today for a few weeks. From peak equity, I will lose $400-$500 today. Net P&L: $130 Goal Review: The good news, I did many things I thought were impossible: Return 50% on account Return 150% on capital Take every trade that I've put in my sim accounts with real money Not blow out trading at 30x-40x leverage Keep my account above break even most entire time The bad: Total return is 4% Gave back most of my profits. My strongest skill is not giving back profits. NET P&L: $71 Probably went negative today. I can't pull up my account information. Frustration level is running higher then usual. I'm estimating that I'm down about $200 but may it will be less if things turn around today. Very frustrated.. after my good luck run with scalping. I've been losing, losing on it. The worst/best part is I can predict the market. It is very frustrating because I'm extremely good at what I do-- just unreal good. And, it seems I'm on this path to try return more and more because I can't get the capital. But the more I try to do.. it just seems I'm not getting anything for it. And I could be making money just doing what I do. My prediction abilities probably return 30% to 100% with reasonable risk. My trading strategies can do 50% to 100% with high risk. These are great returns. I'm already better then many professionals I know. Predictions have been extremely strong. Sharing my work with my interested backer has really helped to get my work back to my normal form. I think I've predicted every move in the market correctly for the last 2 weeks! My primary objective is to tighten up my trades and to increase my leverage. While I've made some progress, it has proved rather difficult. The difference is that with my current ability I can return 30% to 200% per year with good risk/adjusted metrics. But, I'm trying to do more. I've been at this for over 7 years. For over about 5 years, I've been winning. Indeed, I am one of the best in the world, if not the best at what I do.
Blah blah blah you are just a typical snake oil salesman. You claim to be the best ever but you have only been pretending to trade for less than 2 years. In fact up until then you were focused on selling some crap software with typical slimeball patterns: 1. Vague reference to winning "awards" 2. Always using the term "we" like if you talk that way it makes it so that you aren't a single operator running a "business" out of your bedroom. From your old site: "Ideas, Design, Custom Programming We are not just known as the software company that focuses on great productivity enhancing software with an emphasis on design. We also help you design and improve your own products. We offer a wealth of development services for companies and individuals including concept design, user interface review, program review, custom programming, developer graphics (icons, interfaces), and web development. Our core focus is on designing concepts, improving interfaces, reviewing and improving programs, and Windows programming. I have over 10 years of professional programming experience and have programmed extensively in .NET, C#, MFC, and VB.NET. We do focus on user interface improvements and non programming aspect too. We are fully eager to work with shareware developers and smaller software companies. Our rates are very competitive and we are eager to help you succeed with your next software project! We are experienced in working virtually and comfortable in that fully. Please contact us at sales or support and we will find a solution! Curtis White NewTab Owner" If you are not a liar why not post some sort of evidence that you were a "we" and not a one man bedroom operation. Obviously irrelevant to your current snake oil operation but it does help establish your pattern of dishonesty. Or how about the awards your software won? GhostClip is the award winning tabbed notepad with popup via hot keys, transparency, always on top, and autopaste clipboard. ¡Display Cheat Sheets ¡Always On Top ¡Tabbed Interface ¡Hotkeys for instant hide or show Only 21.95! http://web.archive.org/web/20091009...p.com/home.html Since you can't brag as much as you would like here without getting in trouble let me do it for you. Welcome, Who is the Market Predictor? Curtis White I'm a software engineer and web developer by profession with certification and specialization in Microsoft .NET technolgoies. I've been predicting the market with a high degree of accuracy for about 2 years and studied it in some form for the past 5 years. I've had the last 6 months of both my calls and my trades audited at Collective2 and my prior calls were emailed to a select individual. I focus and specialize on the 2 day to 2 week direction but can anticipate market moves in all time frames. My method is discretionary but I develop and backtest trading strategies and systems to guide me. What is this site? It takes a lot of work to predict the market. I have to study, share, study, on a regular basis to keep getting better. I need to reach out to other traders, analyst, system developers, professional traders, and those who recognize and value what I do and can help me to keep getting better. This is all about strenghtening my feedback loops and each other. Are you a guru? Hardly, first my record is much stronger than any guru. All kidding aside, I've learned from some of the best traders around. Most of the material I learned from is freely or cheaply available. But it takes years of effort and work for it to be useful. Really though, I stand (and fall?) on the shoulder of giants. My "book mentors" over the years have been Gary Smith of "How I Trade For A Living", Dr. Brett Steenbarger, George Soros, Rob Hanna, and others. In other words, I've internalized the way some of these market experts view the markets and internalized it into my own, entirely unique way of looking at markets. And, this is a continual process. The market likes to kick the proud in the gut. As Smith said, the time I think I'm better then the average joe will be the time I should be worried. Who should subscribe and why should they? This site even though it is called "The Market Predictor" is not just about me. You see it is about you and me. It is about helping us to win. First, if you are a swing trader then you'll get some great directional calls. If you are a day trader you can use my directional outlook as a powerful bias indicator. Just one of my calls could pay for a year subscription, and I'm calling the market on a regular basis. What makes you different then all the other market services that want my money? You see, I make quantified calls. I've been putting my neck on the line for 6 months and winning. Other market gurus will hide behind vague language, double talk, and flat out lies. I've had my market calls audited by Collective2.com @ my predictor.collective2.com. That's really all the difference in the world. I don't know any other decision support service that does that. I don't believe anything anybody claims! I put it to the test. Ask any of the other gurus for an audited record. They will always make an excuse. They don't have any real talent. No ability. You see they can't read the market. They don't understand it or even care. They just want to sell anything. What will I get? What is your methodology? My calls are based on my proprietary methodology which is a combination of my strong intuition, sentiment, quantifed trading systems, and my very own brand of techncial analysis. I'll try to make at least 1 call per week but can't guarantee it. I'll provide you superior insight into the market. But let's get down to it: I'll give you a directional call that can help you to profit. That's really all that matters. You'll also get an update of how my mechanical signals are doing, and we'll share and learn insights into their inner workings too. I'll be adding more as we progress. You'll get the calls, proprietary market analysis and what I'm looking at, and hopefully we'll do some videos. I may even offer my opinion on a trade of yours. I'll provide tags for each signal so that you can choose what calls interest you. What you will get: (* tentative) ⢠Market Updates/Predictions: These are my "market calls" where I provide the 2 day direction going forward. Non members will only get delayed calls with no additional analysis. You will get the calls immediately when I make them with extra value added analysis. ⢠Original trade ideas: You'll get some of my speculative, experimental, and original trade ideas. These can be a great way to get out of a slump. ⢠Proprietary analysis: You'll get my "view" into the market of how I call the market. So, you can learn to pay attention to what is important and moving or going to be moving the market. ⢠Twitter alerts: I'll be providing key insights via twitter alerts. These will help you to hone in what is moving the market and what you should be looking at. ⢠Video analysis: I'll provide a value enriching video analysis of some of the proprietary types of things that I look at when making a decision. ⢠Educational: I'll be sharing my market studies and other educational material as time goes on. ⢠Discounts: As a member, you'll get discounts on any future mechanical trading systems, subscriptions, educational services, and discounts on my service "My Take: Your trade". ⢠Community & Sharing: I want the members to help, contribute, and give back. We'll look into ways to do this. This a sure thing? Nope! Every trade can go against you and trading is very risky. The past performance of my calls and of my systems may not be indicative going forward. On a chart, you see the left hand side but not the right. The right is invisible. Nobody truly knows the future! I just try to go with my best sense of the odds and work hard at my craft. It has worked so far, and I expect to continue to do well. Where do I sign up and how much will it cost? Watch this space. For the introduction, everything is com pletely free. The cost will probably be around $100 per month. This rate will only be available to individuals and independent professionals. If you are a hedge fund, proprietary trading desk, or institional investor then contact me directly for rate. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from Lucias: To be very clear, if anyone is bringing transparency to their trading. I have done it. Literally every trade I've took over past 3 years is available for inspection. The whole enchilada. What did Don Miller do to bring transparency to trading? He made a claim. No proof. No audited statements. No long term history. Nothing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Past 3 years huh? Too bad your longest running system on C2 goes back 2 years. White lies, white lies.
Mav, I never tried to sell you anything. I was just sharing my system. This is one of systems that has helped me to net nearly 100% over the last 6 months. I've netted as much money as TST?PTK offers in their highest combine just in the past couple months. Anyway, Im not going to be disrespected by losers and shills. I'm out for good.
BTW Lucias it is pretty awesome that you used to claim you had been papertrading that system for 3 years, when it was really only 2, and now all of a sudden you are claiming a 10 year history on your website. Can you say "backtest optimized piece of shit scam"?
Yeah go back in your hole for another 6 months. You pop up again and I will still have your "track record" saved on my computer. I warned you the other day to tone down the bogus claims or I would do this. Lesson to all you would be scammers out there: don't make your real name and past ventures so easy to tie to your current attempt.
Lucias, please tell me you are licensed to make all those claims on your website. Please tell me you are a CTA and registered with the NFA. Or you, Mr. White, are in some serious hot water. You CANNOT use any of that language to sell a commercial product.