loss shows how options help define risk...

Discussion in 'Options' started by sss12, Dec 14, 2017.

  1. sss12


    At the close yesterday my short term parameters/criteria pointed to a lower TEVA. So I went long 10 Dec 16 puts at .71....Totally blind sided by this mornings announcement. With my system an unexpected news/fundamental change is the cost of doing business....

    Trade could not have been more wrong. But if I had shorted the underlying 1000 sh at 15.74 I would be out close to $3k right now versus the $710 on the soon to expire option. (yes, I know the underlying could come back down).

    Not happy obviously, but I knew I my max risk was defined at $ 710.
  2. qxr1011


    Risk is much more than just defined loss !
  3. sss12


    I didn't say otherwise. I said it HELPS to define it. It wasn't supposed it be a "white paper".
  4. qxr1011


    only in working method

    without it all defined losses will just pile up as much if not faster than undefined ones

    but in the working method there are no wrong trades... :)

    it looks that it was right trade based on your system limitations :)

    imho the main risk is in your system limitation and the problem is your system's limitations are extremely risky and imho would not justify what you just explained its high cost
  5. tommcginnis


    Cuckoo. :rolleyes:
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  6. sss12


    Pretty rich not knowing the details of my system, which has positive expectancy and returns over a multi yr time frame.

    As I said my post was not meant to be "white paper". Should have know the experts on ET would make WAY too many assumptions. Oh well, Life on an forum....
  7. tommcginnis


    Noooo, no no no.
    Look at qxrs's other posts. :confused:
    You won't take offense. ;)
    You'll just shake your head...... :rolleyes:
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  8. qxr1011


    nether was mine....

    just commenting...is it allowed?

    or one only wants to hear what he wants hear?
  9. tommcginnis


    qwxr -- in all sincerity -- "We are only insulted by those we respect."
    This is a forum of/for people engaged in a pretty stressful activity, whose brains tend to be going a mile-a-minute all the time. When they come upon nonsense and non-sequitors, it is annoying, to say the least. But that is because there is a respectful expectation on their part, that various posts -- whether in agreement or not -- make sense.

    Something to think about......

    [in addition.... since you've been registered here since 2002, I'm betting this isn't the first time you've seen some grating posts directed your way....]
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  10. qxr1011


    well, my friend, there is an ignore feature on this forum , one can use it to relief himself from all the nonsense especially if there is definite people that spread it

    good luck with the stressful activity
    #10     Dec 14, 2017