Loss of Godlen Opportunities for Deniers

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OddTrader, Jul 21, 2016.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I finally looked up what Dylan Ratigan's "new invention" was that he mentions on his hotelplanner TV commercial. Interesting. I wonder how much they cost.

    http://helicalholdings.com/outposts
     
    #21     Jul 26, 2016
  2. fhl

    fhl

    Petition To Remove Air Conditioning From State
    Department Has Over 1,800 Signatures

    Daily Caller, by Craig Boudreau
    Original Article
    Posted By: mc squared- 7/26/2016 12:50:10 PM Post Reply
    An online petition to remove all air conditioning from Department of State property has gotten more than 1,800 signatures since it was posted online Sunday. A Change.org user named Hopalong Ginsberg created the petition in response to remarks made by Secretary of State John Kerry claiming air conditioning and refrigerants are as much of a threat to the world as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). The petition garnered 1,869 signatures by Monday afternoon.
     
    #22     Jul 26, 2016
  3. jem

    jem

    How many fricken times are you going to pretend models are science. You site this model as if it is science a few times a year.

    I keep having to quote this from your article. This could be complete bullshit... given all the studies which now show clouds have a huge impact.


    "This assessment comes about as the result of climate modeling experiments which show that it is the non-condensing greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, methane, ozone, nitrous oxide, and chlorofluorocarbons that provide the necessary atmospheric temperature structure that ultimately determines the sustainable range for atmospheric water vapor and cloud amounts, and thus controls their radiative contribution to the terrestrial greenhouse effect. From this it follows that these non-condensing greenhouse gases provide the temperature environment that is necessary for water vapor and cloud feedback effects to operate, without which the water vapor dominated greenhouse effect would inevitably collapse and plunge the global climate into an icebound Earth state."









     
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    #23     Jul 26, 2016
  4. that's a good way to get your name placed on a list
     
    #24     Jul 26, 2016
  5. fhl

    fhl

    Which one? The Dept of Homeland Security list or the FBI list or the IRS list,...

    or the DNC master list which automatically places you on all three.
     
    #25     Jul 26, 2016
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  6. And yet what Kerry said is true. Amazing how the dumb righties just can't understand logic and science things.
     
    #26     Jul 26, 2016
  7. jem

    jem

    really its true? could you please show us some peer reviewed science showing man made co2 is causing warming... and that we are warming outside of natural variability?
     
    #27     Jul 26, 2016
  8. WHY WE USE CLIMATE MODELS
    Climate models have several purposes. They are used to understand present climate and what factors create a particular climate in any one region. They are used to project climatic conditions into the future. Finally, climate models are a tool to find out what natural processes or human activities may affect a region’s environment in the future.

    To understand present climate: Global climate models are used to understand the current climate, especially those processes that create a particular climate in each place. To become confident that a model correctly represents everything that shapes climate, scientists test models to see if they can accurately depict the current climate or recent historical climates on Earth. In this way, developers can improve the computer code that represents important physical processes that shape climate in any region.

    To project climatic conditions into the future: Once developers have confidence that a model simulates present climate, they then use that model to project climate into the future. To do so, developers make assumptions about factors that will affect climate in the future. For example, they may assume that the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the air will remain the same as it is now; or alternatively, they may assume that the level of CO2 will double.

    Scientists call these factors “forcing factors” because they strongly influence the climate.
    Other forcing factors, in addition to the level of CO2 , include the amount of dust, ash, or other particles in the air from volcanoes or pollution; the level of ozone; and the reflectivity of the land — whether its surface is light or dark.

    Tools to run experiments: Models are a tool to run experiments that cannot be done in the real environment. Models can simulate alternative futures and thus can answer questions about what processes may or may not shape the future environment of a region. Examples of model experiments include:
     
    #28     Jul 26, 2016
  9. Without the ozone layer, which is what Kerry was talking about, basically all life on earth would fry unless it was protected from the sun.

    And yes, the life on earth is certainly as important as ISIS.

    Conservatives do not seem to understand this. So focused on the present fortunes they are.
     
    #29     Jul 26, 2016
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  10. Perhaps converting the vapor to water in a water shortage world could be a fairly profitable business.

    "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_scarcity
    Clean freshwater is an essential ingredient for a healthy human life, but 1.1 billion people lack access to water and 2.7 billion experience water scarcity at least one month a year. By 2025, two-thirds of the world's population may be facing water shortages.
    [​IMG]
    Physical water scarcity and economic water scarcity by country. 2006 "
     
    #30     Jul 26, 2016