Looting in New Orleans..a new low for americans...and why we are minimizing the effec

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mahram, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. What a complete contrast between NO and Beloxi, Miss.
    Beloxi was hit harder but vittually no looting and violence. Maybe the difference is in Beloxi the citizens have guns. In NO only the criminals and the cops have guns. Maybe, huh.
     
    #331     Sep 4, 2005
  2. They are members of the same gang.
     
    #332     Sep 4, 2005
  3. New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
    The ugly truth

    Sunday, September 4th, 2005

    Bubbling up from the flood that destroyed New Orleans are images, beamed around the world, of America's original and continuing sin: the shabby, contemptuous treatment this country metes out, decade after decade, to poor people in general and the descendants of African slaves in particular. The world sees New Orleans burning and dying today, but the televised anarchy - the shooting and looting, needless deaths, helpless rage and maddening governmental incompetence - was centuries in the making.

    To the casual viewer, the situation is an incomprehensible mess that raises questions about the intelligence, sanity and moral worth of those trapped in the city. Why didn't those people evacuate before the hurricane? Why don't they just walk out of town now? And why should anyone care about people who are stealing and fighting the police?

    That hard, unsympathetic view is the traditional American response to the poverty, ignorance and rage that afflict many of us whose great-great-grandparents once made up the captive African slave labor pool. In far too many cities, including New Orleans, the marching orders on the front lines of American race relations are to control and contain the very poor in ghettos as cheaply as possible; ignore them completely if possible; and call in the troops if the brutes get out of line.

    By almost every statistical measure, New Orleans is a bad place to be poor. Half the city's households make less than $28,000 a year, and 28% of the population lives in poverty.

    In the late 1990s, the state's school systems ranked dead last in the nation in the number of computers per student (1 per 88), and Louisiana has the nation's second-highest percentage of adults who never finished high school. By the state's own measure, 47% of the public schools in New Orleans rank as "academically unacceptable."

    And Louisiana is the only one of the 50 states where the state legislature doesn't allocate money to pay for the legal defense of indigent defendants. The Associated Press reported this year that it's not unusual for poor people charged with crimes to stay in jail for nine months before getting a lawyer appointed.

    These government failures are not merely a matter of incompetence. Louisiana and New Orleans have a long, well-known reputation for corruption: as former congressman Billy Tauzin once put it, "half of Louisiana is under water and the other half is under indictment."

    That's putting it mildly. Adjusted for population size, the state ranks third in the number of elected officials convicted of crimes (Mississippi is No. 1). Recent scandals include the conviction of 14 state judges and an FBI raid on the business and personal files of a Louisiana congressman.

    In 1991, a notoriously corrupt Democrat named Edwin Edwards ran for governor against Republican David Duke, a former head of the Ku Klux Klan. Edwards, whose winning campaign included bumper stickers saying "Elect the Crook," is currently serving a 10-year prison sentence for taking bribes from casino owners. Duke recently completed his own prison term for tax fraud.

    The rot included the New Orleans Police Department, which in the 1990s had the dubious distinction of being the nation's most corrupt police force and the least effective: the city had the highest murder rate in America. More than 50 officers were eventually convicted of crimes including murder, rape and robbery; two are currently on Death Row.

    The decision to subject an entire population to poverty, ignorance, injustice and government corruption as a way of life has its ugly moments, as the world is now seeing. New Orleans officials issued an almost cynical evacuation order in a city where they know full well that thousands have no car, no money for airfare or an interstate bus, no credit cards for hotels, and therefore no way to leave town before the deadly storm and flood arrived.

    The authorities provided no transportation out of the danger zone, apparently figuring the neglected thousands would somehow weather the storm in their uninsured, low-lying shacks and public housing projects. The poor were expected to remain invisible at the bottom of the pecking order and somehow weather the storm.

    But the flood confounded the plan, and the world began to see a tide of human misery rising from the water - ragged, sick, desperate and disorderly. Some foraged for food, some took advantage of the chaos to commit crimes. All in all, they acted exactly the way you could predict people would act who have been locked up in a ghetto for generations.

    The world also saw the breezy indifference with which government officials treated these tens of thousands of sick and dying citizens, even as the scope of the disaster became clear. President Bush initially shunned the Gulf Coast and headed to political fund-raisers in the West.

    That left matters in the bumbling hands of the director of emergency management, Michael Brown, who ranks No. 1 on the list of officials who ought to be fired when the crisis has passed. Even as local officials were publicly reporting assaults, fires and bedlam at local hospitals, Brown took to the airwaves to declare that "things are going well" as mayhem engulfed the city. When asked about the rising death toll, Brown attributed it to "people who did not heed the advance warnings." Brown's smug ignorance of the conditions of the place he was tasked to save became the final door slammed on the trap that tens of thousands of the city's poorest found themselves.

    The challenge for America is to remember the faces of the evacuees who will surely be ushered back into a black hole of public indifference as soon as the White House and local officials can manage it. While pledging ourselves to remember their mistreatment and fight for their cause, we should also be sure to cast a searching, skeptical eye on the money that Bush has pledged for rebuilding.

    Ten billion dollars are about to pass into the sticky hands of politicians in the No. 1 and No. 3 most corrupt states in America. Worried about looting? You ain't seen nothing yet.
     
    #333     Sep 4, 2005
  4. Dude, you're hopelessly misinformed. (As a Nordic leftist, I guess your rational faculty is beyond salvation.)

    Rationally discussing racial differences goes way beyond alarmist claptrap about "race mixing" and "purity" (the kind you find on, say, Stormfront) and, really, has absolutely nothing to do with "hate".

    The point is races are real and those differences produce differing economic and social outcomes - outcomes that cannot simply be explained away by "hate" and "racism". Understandably, liberals find this terrifying, so the only response they can muster is increased devotional zeal and "hate" of their own (ie "white sheets" and "brown shirts"). While adherence to slogans like "race doesn't exist!" may be comforting, it prevents greater understanding of human biodiversity and how it can be managed to produce better lives for all.
     
    #334     Sep 4, 2005
  5. TGregg

    TGregg

    Gunmen Attack Contractors on La. Bridge
    Sep 04 7:08 PM US/Eastern

    NEW ORLEANS

    Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.

    Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people carrying guns, killing five or six.

    Fourteen contractors were traveling across the Danziger Bridge under police escort when they came under fire, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers.

    They were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help plug the breach in the 17th Street Canal, Hall said.

    None of the contractors was killed, Hall said.

    The bridge spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

    No other details were immediately available.

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/04/D8CDNSVG0.html
     
    #335     Sep 4, 2005
  6. jsp326

    jsp326

    Yes, just "throw more money" and everything will be OK. In reality, you can build brand new schools with high-tech science labs and PCs...and they'll be trashed in a few years and literacy rates and SAT scores won't improve. You'll have giveaway programs that are exploited to the hilt, without ever "teaching anyone to fish." etc., etc.

    Sorry to burst your worldview's bubble, but that's the reality from someone who has seen it.

     
    #336     Sep 6, 2005
  7. Well, then, explain what those real differences are and back up your words with scientific support.

    You see, there is a whole lot of bullshit about racial differences. The scientific reality is that racial differences are VERY minor.

    bt
     
    #337     Apr 17, 2006