Looting in New Orleans..a new low for americans...and why we are minimizing the effec

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mahram, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    you cant even imgaine the scope of things unless u are there...you just cant get the true devastation from a TV...trust me i was here for andrew and it was a logistical nightmare to get things where they needed to get to....and we werent 10 feet underwater...where the ball was dropped was in pre hurricane strike...the ball should have been rolling hours before not days after....incredible....a really sad time in America...we are spread out to thin..how can we drop ready made meals to the afganis and not have them ready to deploy for hurricane victims...wow sad
     
    #211     Sep 2, 2005
  2. Da ya think those camera men and reporters who are showing us the devastation and suffering are going without food, etc?

    Why is it that the press is always able to get close to the people to show the suffering, but the government isn't able to get food and support to these people?

    :confused: :mad: :confused:

     
    #212     Sep 2, 2005
  3. rich64

    rich64

    But surely this is the crux of the problem, the failure to move quickly and get adequate numbers of relief aid and key medical/logistical staff on the ground together with large numbers of troops to both reasure and help evacuate people has allowed the desperation to grow and led directly to the breakdown we are now seeing.

    It seems Pres' Bush and the LA Gvnr are more comfortable talking about sending in battle hardened troops "locked and loaded" whilst still failing to get to grips with the human catastrophe unfolding before them....they may well win a battle against looters (some criminal some simply desperate) but I fear they are losing the war to save many others.
     
    #213     Sep 2, 2005
  4. If ZZzzz if you read my post it said shoot the armed criminals who are literally raping and murdering people. They are organized and intentionally stayed behind todo this. You dont want to admit that shooting to kill these people is the right thing, it is. I seriously dont know where you get your information from but here in Canada we were getting these reports since late tuesday. And comfirmation on wednesday. You have been completely spinned, and today it finally broke what was really happening. Man Zzzz you better get some better information resources, if you were a trader and you had your info you would be in deep trouble.

     
    #214     Sep 2, 2005
  5. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    they are only showing 1/1000000 th of the area which is devastated....which doesnt show the true nightmare involved with rescue efforts...a van with a 2 man camera crew can go just about anywhere...
     
    #215     Sep 2, 2005
  6. Special Report
    Masques of Death
    By George Neumayr
    Published 9/2/2005 12:12:28 AM
    New Orleans has one of the highest murder rates in the country. By mid-August of this year, 192 murders had been committed in New Orleans, "nearly 10 times the national average," reported the Associated Press. Gunfire is so common in New Orleans -- and criminals so fierce -- that when university researchers conducted an experiment last year in which they had cops fire 700 blank rounds in a neighborhood on a random afternoon "no one called to report the gunfire," reported AP.

    New Orleans was ripe for collapse. Its dangerous geography, combined with a dangerous culture, made it susceptible to an unfolding catastrophe. Currents of chaos and lawlessness were running through the city long before this week, and they were bound to come to the surface under the pressure of natural disaster and explode in a scene of looting and mayhem.

    Like riotous Los Angeles since the 1960s, New Orleans has been a wasteland of politically correct dysfunction for decades -- public schools so obviously decimated vouchers were proposed this year (and torpedoed by the left), barbaric gangster rap culture no one will confront lest they offend liberal pieties, multiculturalist frauds who empower no one but themselves, and cops neutered by the NAACP and ACLU.

    Criminals have ruled New Orleans for some time, convincing many members of the middle class, long before the hurricane, that the city was unlivable. In 1994, New Orleans was the murder capital of America. It had 421 murders that year. Criminologists predicted 300 murders this year, a projection that now looks quite conservative.

    Criminals dominate their neighborhoods to the point that people don't even call in crimes. The district attorney's office, tacitly admitting that the city's law-abiding citizens live in fear, has taken the "unusual" step of establishing a local witness protection program to encourage the reporting of crime, reports AP.

    According to the New Orleans Police Foundation, most murderers get off -- only 1 in 4 are convicted -- and 42 percent of cases involving serious crimes since 2002 have been dropped by prosecutors.

    Meanwhile, cops, when they can get away with it, have been living out of town. It is far too scary for them and their families. New Orleans Police officers are required to live in the city but many ignore this residency requirement, according to the Times-Picayune. The paper discovered that many top-ranking New Orleands cops lived in the suburbs and that most cops, both black and white, wanted the residency requirement rescinded.

    For reasons of political correctness -- critics of law enforcement say lifting the residency requirement will mean more white cops eager to brutalize residents of the inner city and fewer black cops understanding of them -- the residency requirement remains, though cops breaking the rule told the Times-Picayune that it seriously hurts recruitment. It also -- this is particularly evident in Los Angeles where cops involved in the Ramparts scandal turned out to be ex-criminals -- distorts recruitment.

    If the New Orleans Police Department has appeared feeble during the chaos -- and in some cases complicit in it -- policies like the residency requirement explain the breakdown. (Perhaps another factor that has rendered the NOPD feckless in the face of a rising murder rate is the criticism of its handling of a minority Mardi Gras.) Americans who have seen cops join in the looting ask: Why are police officers behaving like criminals? Well, because PC police departments like the NOPD hire them. Aggressive, let's-just-meet-the-quota-style affirmative action has become the door through which criminals enter the police academy.

    More than the physical foundations of New Orleans will need to be rebuilt over the next few years. Its politically correct culture in which pathologies are allowed to fester in the name of "progress" forms much of the debris that must be cleared away if civilization is to return to New Orleans. A city which boasts as one of its businesses memorial "death t-shirts" -- clothing made popular by the frequency of gangland slayings in New Orleans that say things like, "Born a Pimp, Died a Playa" -- was headed for collapse even without a hurricane, and had become, as the exodus of cops illustrates, unlivable.

    Conservative black leaders have been mau-maued into silence whenever they tell the truth about this barbarism and call for dramatic reform. But they are the ones who must lead the city now, and the phonies at organizations like the NAACP who despite all their rhetoric haven't done a thing to help the black underclass should step aside. Hurricane Katrina has made vivid the civilizational collapse they have long tried to conceal.
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    You want a good look at the results of years and years of liberalism NO is the perfect example.

    Liberals let this crap go on for years, it gets exposed and then they want it cleaned up in hours. Oh but don't hurt the criminals.

    Sick!
     
    #216     Sep 2, 2005
  7. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    i agree....they should have had a plan in motion before the hurricane hit land...thats all im saying
     
    #217     Sep 2, 2005
  8. Gee, ya think this guy is right wing biased?
     
    #218     Sep 2, 2005
  9. Here's a good question to all you whining critics, how many of you have donated any cash?

    Im sure that the ones bashing the most, and copying and pasting the most, would never consider opening the purse strings. If you are not going to do anything other than usual anti US gov. sentiment, than you're a hypocrite, you FPOS.
     
    #219     Sep 2, 2005
  10. Yes, but what does donating money have to do with inadequate leadership?
     
    #220     Sep 2, 2005