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Whatever knowledge you are holding onto will undoubtedly become stale. You would be better advised to learn new methods - and share.

 

What stock or other vehicle moves 800% in 2 years with only 1% counter trend correction?

 

Only an invisible one which is what we've seen so far.

 

are you trading otc while on crack?
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I'm getting 20:1 leverage because the position is nearly cash neutral. So now you have to ask yourself what investment vehicleS (it's 2 vehicles working together, not 1 working independent of the other) can get 40% in 5 years with no more then 1% correction.

I'm not trying to play games, but like I said I received the help I was looking for and am no longer looking for anything more on this matter, I will post more in the future with new ideas and thoughts.

Thanks.

 

if it was achievable in size and not random why would the OP bother to post after 2 years

 

What idea? What thoughts? Don't hurry.

 

700%, not 800%, many people get this wrong.

I can bet getting 20:1 leverage on a 5% fixed income investment like an annuity loaned at a stupidly low libor 3 month rolled over plus 1 can yield on $1 makes $1 or a 100% return in the first year reinvested at 20:1 again the $2 leveraged after two years at 5% gets a $2 return. Your return is then 3/1-1=200%, but without leverage this still doesn't get to the 700% mark. Fascinating, most likely a derivative.

Incidentally, this is identical to what Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns felt about sub-prime mortgages except in this situation the yield was rated AAA supposedly risk free at 7%, which, in our $1 20:1 leveraged means in the first year you earn $1.4 or 140% ROE and then with the $2.4 you at 20:1 you earn $3.36 for a total return of (1.4+3.36)/1-1=4.76-1=376% NP after two years. Unfortunately this still doesn't get to 700% either but a lot of investors thought it could keep going that way.

There are many possibilities to get to 700% np, but ones drawing down 1% I don't think many can find. 20:1 on a fixed indexed annuity with guarantees of principal I've always wanted to find a company who'll lend infinitely on this. Your only risk is paying the loan payments and keeping the growth at the end of the tunnel.

 

Half the fun of being successful.. is watching all the other people who aren't.

 

don't worry. with your ego you'll be soon enough on the unsuccessful side . perhaps you are there already.
you are already #1. your remark for a #1 post tops the list of idiotic remarks for a 1st post.