Looking for a 17 inch Laptop for 4-5 DOMs and Charting

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Adam777, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. Dell currently has "30% off" on Precision Mobile Workstations. Here's one for $2100 (-30% = ~$1500-ish)

    http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...04&key=WjSVing4ZtTYzNxFrdw/0A==&puid=98959f4a
     
    #11     Sep 14, 2016
  2. Adam777

    Adam777

    Thanks. I've started looking through similar deals as I'm in Sydney. Almost impossible to find many 17inch laptop deals. Is 15 inch a no go?

    Jigsaw probably has similar system requirements to x_trader, so any of these should be fine.
     
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    #12     Sep 14, 2016
  3. If you want to display all the DOMs at once, seems even 17" wouldn't be big enough. If you can scroll through or select DOMs from the task bar while having 1 or 2 displayed at one time, 15" would be OK. I have a 15" with 1920x1200 screen.
     
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  4. Mtrader

    Mtrader

    I trade mathematical models with several screens open and never ever need the full power of the processor. If you use recent software that takes advantage of all the threads of the CPU you have a lot of power.

    My problem was that the previous processor ran so hot that the laptop melted. Cooling is a bigger problem then processor power for most of the people. And cooling power is huge in my laptop. Not 1 cooler but 2, and I can run them at double speed giving a lot of cooling capacity. I paid around 1200 euro for my laptop. As it is a gamers laptop graphics should be good too. I use a 17 inch extra screen.

    I found a homebuild model that was more powerful for less than $ 2K, but I lost the information. If you are interested I can try to find it back. Processor was 25% more powerful than the 6700HQ.
     
    #14     Sep 14, 2016
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  5. Adam777

    Adam777

    Thank you Mtrader. I want to start practicing straight away, and building a laptop would take far too long.

    Thank you everyone for very kindly shown me I don't need more speed, just a stable cool system with lots of ram.
     
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    #15     Sep 15, 2016
  6. To obtain what you want, you will probably need to do a small amount of building. You will probably need to purchase a 17" i7 laptop, install a 2x8GB or 1x16GB RAM stick, pull the HDD and install a 1 or 2 TB SSD. You don't need to have a laptop with both an SSD and HDD. It just runs down the battery quicker anyway. I looked at the Asus laptop and the SSD is only 256 GB. I don't know if you want to pull the cover for a different laptop and work on it.

    For the 4-5 DOM's, what you want is 1-2 portable USB3.0 screens, protected by cushioned slip-on cases, and a good backpack for portability. Here is my post I wrote last year which covers this.

    If you want to quickly get into trading without any building, that Asus ROG laptop or something similar is OK. It also has an nVidia 1060 GPU. You can use nVidia GPU's to experiment with CUDA (GPU) programming if you ever wish to. Perhaps the more advanced trading platforms will be CUDA enabled in the future. Don't expect long battery run times on these large performance laptops.

    As for overheating, if a laptop overheats, it could be the manufacturer did not apply enough, or good enough quality, thermal compound. Perhaps the worker did not apply it correctly. IMHO, Arctic Silver 5 is still the best. Perhaps the fan, usually the most undependable part of a system, was malfunctioning. IMHO, manufacturers usually do not apply enough oil or grease for fans. Sometimes manufacturers do not apply any oil or grease to the fans, usually cheaper sleeve-bearing, and they fail within 2 years. IMHO, even a sleeve-bearing fan, properly greased, should operate for tens of thousands of hours.

    Whatever you buy, be sure to do your research and read the reviews.
     
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    #16     Sep 17, 2016
  7. Adam777

    Adam777


    Thanks Cyberdude,

    I'm currently looking for a refurbished workstation as suggested by the many of the others. Yesterday I was bidding on a refurbished Dell Precision 7710. Unfortunately there are bucket loads of 15 inch instead of 17 inch refurbished laptops in Australia, so I'm thinking about purchasing from the US (just worried about warranty situations). Hopefully I'll find something soon.

    I'm happy to do simple maintenance and upgrades on any laptop. The laptop is a desktop replacement as I have little room.
     
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    #17     Sep 18, 2016
  8. Adam777

    Adam777

    #18     Sep 18, 2016
  9. Keep in mind, all of my posts are my opinion and for educational purposes only. That Lenovo G50 was from my other post 1.5 years ago regarding trading while traveling. I don't think it would fill your needs. Technology changes every 6-8 months.

    You live in Sidney and I don't know what Frys international shipping costs are. The G50 was meant more for USA buyers when the G50 goes on sale. Frys has had that G50 on sale many times. The G50 also only has a 15.6" screen.

    Because you are replacing a desktop, your basic requirements are:
    1. Intel i7 CPU
    2. 8-16 GB RAM, preferably 16 GB
    3. 512 GB SSD
    4. 17" screen
    5. 1 or 2 USB 3.0 ports
    6. 1 or 2 USB 2.0 ports
    7. My other post was meant to tell the OP it is possible to run USB 3.0 multi-monitors on a laptop, something you will probably want to do.

    Because you live in Sidney, you may need to have your laptop shipped international. It depends on what you find. I looked at the Australian Amazon site and it only has books so it won't help you.

    I took a look at what 17" laptops are available. The one I like is the ASUS ROG GL752VW-DH71. At $1000, it's not too expensive and has a good feature set. I saw 2 YouTube video reviews on it:
    1. ASUS ROG GL752VW-DH71 Review
    2. ASUS GL752 Review - 17" Budget Gaming Laptop (Late 2015)
    What I like about the GL752VW is you can easily remove the back panel and upgrade components.

    It has a slot for an M.2 drive which is nice. Asus states in their user's manual on page 94 their "The M.2 2280 slot 'supports' either PCIe (NVMe) SSD or SATA SSD." That doesn't mean it actually runs at NVMe speeds. Still, that's a nice feature. How you would transfer your Win10 install to the M.2 is something you would need to deal with. The GL752 also has 2 RAM slots so I assume you can upgrade to 32 GB.
    1. Asus ROG GL752VW page.
    2. ASUS ROG GL752VW-DH71 store page.

    Newegg ASUS 17.3" GL752VW-DH71 page.
    Newegg International shipping page.

    Here are 4 reviews:
    1. notebookcheck
    2. techforpennies
    3. laptopmedia
    4. topg4u

    IMO, because you live outside the USA, you should only buy from the major etailers such as Amazon and Newegg. I think Amazon would be better. I don't think you should buy from the smaller sellers. Make sure you are buying directly from Amazon and no one else. The Amazon page should say "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com."

    One thing you should consider is the GL752VW-DH71 is last year's model. If I was spending $1K, I would prefer to wait and buy a GTX1060 instead of a GTX960 i7 laptop. However, since you are trading, I don't think it's that important. A good thing is Asus has had a year to work out the bugs, including the infamous Windows 10 video driver bugs. You might want to ask if you can use CUDA on the GTX960M on the GL752. You should probably choose the ROG Global Forum.

    IMO, I think the ASUS ROG GL752VW-DH71 is a good laptop for your needs. I would buy the GL752VW-DH71 over a refurbished laptop. You never know what problems you are getting from a refurb. Asus states the warranty is 1 year. IMO, you should also buy the Samsung 950 PRO Series - 512GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V5P512BW). If the GL752 fully supports NVMe, you will get incredible speeds from it, up to 1500MB/sec write speeds, 3 times faster than SATA III.

    The only negatives are the battery runtime, probably around 2 hours. The GL752 also does not have any LED lights indicating whether the CAP or NUM locks are on. However, these are small inconveniences for you.

    Good luck in whatever you choose. Remember to do your research for whatever choice you make.
     
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    #19     Sep 18, 2016
  10. Karin42

    Karin42

    Several years have passed have you already obtained needed soution ? How much it costs and how much it costs now ? I was always interested to see any good points in that matter. Thanks for letting me know that such need exists. PC get cheap very fast.
     
    #20     Jun 24, 2019