Long stock long more gold

Discussion in 'Trading' started by noddyboy, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. S2007S

    S2007S

    Dollar falling commodities rising again....


    the story just continues to get old....

    sooner or later something has to give, either the dollar collapses or the DOLLAR COLLAPSES......


    :eek:
     
    #31     Nov 23, 2009
  2. Trend following? Two experts I know keep changing their trend lines as they need to. Other data led me to believe the market was going higher today, and it went against those trend lines.
     
    #32     Nov 23, 2009
  3. no pt, there is little to no trading done during the trading day itself. All the money is now made in swing trading, not day trading.
     
    #33     Nov 23, 2009
  4. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Trendlines are for reversion traders who want to buy when it hits the lower channel line. A true momentum player will be long after 16 up days in GC -- and any formula will show a long signal if it is momentum based.
     
    #34     Nov 23, 2009
  5. It looks like this bull party will have to be suspended for now. China and Europe gave US a rally last night, and we did not return the favor, so I expect China to resume the sell-off tonight. Expect down futures tonight and a down day tomorrow. It's too bad I couldn't sell today due to settlements, but I can sell tomorrow if I feel the need to.
     
    #35     Nov 23, 2009
  6. People said that when gold was trading at 600.
     
    #36     Nov 23, 2009
  7. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    and we are up 17 days out of 18. This is keeping people from getting in, which is great for momentum traders. Bcos there will be 1 or 2 down days with minimal retracements, and then it will continue to fustrate people who are waiting for a good entry. Statistically, it doesn't pay to sell a streak in gold...
     
    #37     Nov 25, 2009
  8. S2007S

    S2007S

    Anticipation of 1200 is keeping the trend higher, 1200 could come as early as Friday however a short term pull back is coming sooner or later.

    GLL

    ZSL

    2 plays to short Gold or Silver.
     
    #38     Nov 25, 2009
  9. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Agreed that 1200 is coming soon.

    DATE PRICE CHANGE % Change
    W 11/25/09 1182.80 +17.00 +1.46
    T 11/24/09 1165.80 +1.10 +0.09
    M 11/23/09 1164.70 +17.90 +1.56

    F 11/20/09 1146.80 +4.90 +0.43
    T 11/19/09 1141.90 +.70 +0.06
    W 11/18/09 1141.20 +1.80 +0.16
    T 11/17/09 1139.40 +.20 +0.02
    M 11/16/09 1139.20 +22.50 +2.01

    F 11/13/09 1116.70 +10.10 +0.91
    T 11/12/09 1106.60 -8.00 -0.72
    W 11/11/09 1114.60 +12.10 +1.10
    T 11/10/09 1102.50 +1.10 +0.10
    M 11/ 9/09 1101.40 +5.70 +0.52

    F 11/ 6/09 1095.70 +6.40 +0.59
    T 11/ 5/09 1089.30 +2.00 +0.18
    W 11/ 4/09 1087.30 +2.40 +0.22
     
    #39     Nov 25, 2009
  10. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Wire: BLOOMBERG News (BN) Date: Nov 25 2009 8:47:16
    Gold Rises to Record on Dollar Drop, Report India May Buy More


    By Nicholas Larkin and Glenys Sim
    Nov. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Gold climbed to a record in New York
    and London on a further drop by the dollar and on a report that
    India may buy more bullion for its central-bank reserves.
    Gold futures have rallied 12 percent since India said on
    Nov. 3 it bought 200 metric tons of metal from the International
    Monetary Fund. The country, the world’s largest gold consumer,
    is open to additional purchases from the IMF, the Financial
    Chronicle newspaper reported. The U.S. Dollar Index fell for a
    third day, sliding to the lowest level in more than 15 months.
    “Central-bank buying has been one of the main factors of
    this recent rally,” Peter Fertig, owner of Quantitative
    Commodity Research Ltd. in Hainburg, Germany, said today by
    phone. “The weaker dollar is driving commodities higher.”
    Bullion futures for February delivery on the New York
    Mercantile Exchange’s Comex division climbed as much as $17.30,
    or 1.5 percent, to $1,184.70 an ounce. They traded at $1,181.70
    by 8:40 a.m. local time. Up for a ninth day, futures are set for
    the longest stretch of gains since August 1982.
    Gold for immediate delivery added 1 percent to $1,180.63 an
    ounce in London after earlier reaching $1,182.95. Prices may
    advance to $1,200 next week, according to Fertig.
    The metal rose to a record $1,176.50 an ounce in the
    morning “fixing” in London from $1,163.25 at yesterday’s
    afternoon fixing. Some mining companies use fixings to sell
    production. Spot prices are up 34 percent this year.

    Overtaking Russia

    A further purchase by India would make its stockpile the
    world’s eighth-largest, overtaking the Netherlands and Russia,
    according to figures from the producer-funded World Gold
    Council. Reserve Bank of India Governor Duvvuri Subbarao
    declined to comment on the report.
    “Actions from central banks are very important at the
    moment,” said Eugen Weinberg, an analyst at Commerzbank AG.
    “The purchase from India was like a seal of prices above $1,000
    an ounce. Also, other central banks are buying gold.”
    The central banks of Russia and Sri Lanka have acquired
    gold, prompting analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch,
    Societe Generale and Barclays Capital to forecast more such
    purchases. Governments are the biggest bullion holders.
    Mauritius bought 2 tons of gold from the IMF last month for
    $71.7 million after India’s $6.7 billion purchase.
    The IMF, which set out two months ago to dispose of one-
    eighth of its gold reserves, still has more than 200 tons to
    sell. It will do so on a “first-come, first-served” basis,
    Andrew Tweedie, head of the fund’s finance department, said in a
    Nov. 20 interview.

    Central-Bank Demand

    “The additional stimulus for gold is the increased demand
    emerging from central banks, who are now keen to diversify away
    from the falling value of dollar reserves,” said Mark Pervan, a
    commodity strategist with ANZ Banking Group Ltd. in Sydney.
    Bullion typically moves inversely to the U.S. currency. The
    dollar index, a six-currency gauge of the greenback’s value,
    slid as much as 0.9 percent today after Federal Reserve
    officials refrained from voicing concern over this year’s 8.4
    percent decline.
    Assets held by the SPDR Gold Trust, the biggest exchange-
    traded fund backed by bullion, expanded for a second day
    yesterday to 1,122.37 tons, the most since June 29. The fund’s
    holdings reached a record 1,134 tons on June 1. Gold held in ETF
    Securities Ltd.’s exchange-traded products fell 0.5 percent to
    7.936 million ounces yesterday, its Web site showed.
    “Speculators betting on higher prices have a very good
    argument on their side,” Weinberg said in a Bloomberg
    Television interview. “It’s the weak dollar, the possibility of
    longer-term inflation, and also actions from central banks. It’s
    definitely investment demand that is pushing prices higher.”

    Scrap Sales

    The rally has pushed the 14-day relative strength index for
    futures above the level of 70 viewed by some investors and
    analysts who follow technical charts as a sign that prices may
    soon fall. Today’s reading was 85.05.
    “Technically, gold remains overbought,” Walter de Wet, a
    London-based Standard Bank Ltd. analyst, wrote today in a
    report. “We have seen some scrap metal coming to the market at
    current levels, but still not enough to offset buying.”
    Silver for March delivery in New York gained 1.4 percent to
    $18.755 an ounce. Platinum for January delivery climbed 2.7
    percent to $1,482 an ounce, the highest price in more than 14
    months. Palladium for March delivery rose 1.7 percent to $377 an
    ounce.
    ETF Securities’ silver holdings rose 0.7 percent to a
    record 22.861 million ounces yesterday, its Web site showed.
    Platinum assets added 164 ounces to a record 426,639 ounces,
    while palladium holdings climbed 1.4 percent to an all-time high
    of 624,859 ounces.

    For Related News and Information:
    Top commodity reports: CTOP <GO>
    Top metal and mining stories: METT <GO>
    Central bank gold reserves: WGO <GO>
    Collector-coin prices: CCEX <GO>
    Commodity arbitrage calculator: CARC <GO>

    --With assistance from Patricia Lui in Singapore and Kim
    Kyoungwha in Seoul. Editors: Dan Weeks, James Ludden.

    To contact the reporters on this story:
    Glenys Sim in Singapore at +65-6311-2466 or gsim4@bloomberg.net;
    Nicholas Larkin in London at +44-20-7673-2069 or
    nlarkin1@bloomberg.net

    To contact the editor responsible for this story:
    Stuart Wallace at +44-20-7673-2388 or swallace6@bloomberg.net


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    #40     Nov 25, 2009